AndyW
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| posted on 22/5/11 at 03:25 PM |
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Using original ford ecu and inlet? the answer is here?
Ive been waiting for something like this and Richard kept telling me soon!! Well its appeared on the web site. So if your using the original ford ecu
and throttle body of your zetec, then this might be the answer. So is this a cheaper option than using megawotsit???
Im using the original system, just a pity I cant afford this yet!!!
Link to GBSC
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MikeR
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| posted on 22/5/11 at 05:36 PM |
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I looked at doing the similar but mine would have included the mountings for the fuel injection rail - except i got a job instead. Looks nice and the
inlet trumpets are very worthwhile - something i was struggling on. Definately cheaper than a megawotsit & you'll get decent emissions for
the IVA 'free' of charge.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 22/5/11 at 05:47 PM |
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My opinion on it. I can see no provision for the ford idle control valve. This is really needed with the eec family of ecu's. It can be got
around but the ford one works so well. So its still aimed at aftermarket ecu's ie omex / megasquirt
You still need a sandwich plate from an early Fiesta / Escort to mount the injectors. At least with the griffin you could just stick your injectors
into the new manifold. Its saved a few pence in steel and a little labour.
I love the shape and length of the runners and really like the proper bell mouths inside the plenum. somthing that you couldnt really do with the
griffin.
Price £235, look forward to seing it at Newark.
wonder if he will do one not powder coated so I can alter it.
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daxtojeiro
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| posted on 22/5/11 at 07:44 PM |
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eerrm, whats the point in that? The whole idea of ITBs is that they are theoretically a tuned port to atmosphere. Thats simply a single throttle body
(as OEM) with some trumpets in it.
May as well leave the OEM system on it and save youself some cash for fuel,
Phil
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MikeR
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| posted on 22/5/11 at 08:09 PM |
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i realised i hadn't seen the idle valve whilst driving to my mates tonight. You can get improvements by carefully designing the inlets, my
calc's had the plenum tapering to keep the gas speed constant - i'd hazard a carefully designed inlet is more efficient than the ford item
as you don't have the space / emissions constraints or desire for low down torque. Theoretically never as good as itb's but cheaper,
easier to set up and nearly as good.
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AndyW
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| posted on 22/5/11 at 08:11 PM |
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they use the original inlet cut down to make a sandwich plate so you can use injectors.
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AndyW
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| posted on 22/5/11 at 08:12 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by daxtojeiro
eerrm, whats the point in that? The whole idea of ITBs is that they are theoretically a tuned port to atmosphere. Thats simply a single throttle body
(as OEM) with some trumpets in it.
May as well leave the OEM system on it and save youself some cash for fuel,
Phil
But the original inlet manifold does not fit most as it takes the place of the steering shaft. Suppose you could use it, as long as you dont want to
go round corners.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 22/5/11 at 08:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by AndyW
they use the original inlet cut down to make a sandwich plate so you can use injectors.
Ah the penny drops I thought it would use the ally sandwich plate. Do they mill it flat or is it down to guy fitting it to chop it down ?
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AdrianH
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| posted on 22/5/11 at 08:53 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by AndyW
they use the original inlet cut down to make a sandwich plate so you can use injectors.
Does that mean I can use this that I did some months ago?
Must admit I thought that it would be better with taper down it's length.
Adrian
[Edited on 22-5-11 by AdrianH]
[Edited on 24-5-11 by AdrianH]
Why do I have to make the tools to finish the job? More time then money.
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AndyW
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| posted on 22/5/11 at 09:04 PM |
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From what I understand from Richard, is that if you have it, you give them the oe inlet and they make the plate from it, they have them in stock so
its like exchange really.
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daxtojeiro
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| posted on 24/5/11 at 08:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by AndyW
quote:
Originally posted by daxtojeiro
eerrm, whats the point in that? The whole idea of ITBs is that they are theoretically a tuned port to atmosphere. Thats simply a single throttle body
(as OEM) with some trumpets in it.
May as well leave the OEM system on it and save youself some cash for fuel,
Phil
But the original inlet manifold does not fit most as it takes the place of the steering shaft. Suppose you could use it, as long as you dont want to
go round corners.
I guess I need to make one of these Locosts,
My Son would love one.
Phil
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