roadrunner
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| posted on 22/9/11 at 08:15 PM |
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Winter upgrade
It looks like I will be swapping the very reliable ZX9R for a Zx10R this winter and there are a few things I am not sure about.
1- Which year of engine is best, obviously newer the better but cost comes into it as well. Are all the newer zx10s post 2004 the same power.
2- Will the zx9 manifold fit the zx10.
3- How much of the engine cradle suit the new engine.
4- Which Freelander diff is the one to have as sellers on Fleebay don't give the ratio.
5- Will my rear end need altering to suit new diff.
6- And can I run the standard ecu, or is the power commander best.
A lot of questions I know, but your input would be greatly appreciated.
Brad
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eddie99
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| posted on 22/9/11 at 08:22 PM |
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I can only help with number 1 and 6.... Don't know the zx9 well enough to comment however. Power wise, the 06/07 are the same engine and
08/09/10 are the same engine, The differences between the 06/07 and later ones are secondary injectors in the airbox. A bit more power out of the
later engines but not significant. Not sure on 04/05 engines however.
With regards to power commander, On a road car, i wouldn't say its necessary but if wanting to go on track, i would pay the extra for
powercommander. If you want a powercommander, i can beat most peoples prices 
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RickRick
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| posted on 23/9/11 at 06:05 AM |
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I'll take 4 and 5
All the freelander diffs are the same ratio, and i'm almost sure its 3.21 make sure you get the newer ones, i think they have 180 in the part
number, older ones have weaker bearings in the nose.
yes, if your rear end is currently built for sierra diff it will need major changes, it will probably also require a shorter prop, and new
driveshafts with freelander splines at one end, sierra at the other
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matt_gsxr
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| posted on 23/9/11 at 07:41 PM |
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Re: 5
Have you considered trying to pick up a 3.14 or a 3.36 diff. The modifications for Freelander include changed driveshafts and mounting points. 3.14
are expensive, but not unobtainable.
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roadrunner
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 08:26 AM |
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Thanks for the info felllas.
06- 07 engines are cheaper and I have just seen a 3.14 diff on the Bay for 160 quid.
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Hellfire
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 08:57 AM |
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Have you considered that your money might be better spent on adding lightness and getting the car set up properly? I'm not trying to dissuade
you from fitting a ZX10R but IMHO, the work and cost involved may not give you the power increase you're expecting. The ZX9R is a great engine
and as you say, has been very reliable for you.....
Phil
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PAUL FISHER
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 11:52 AM |
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I agree with Phil, Ive had a 2006 zx10r engine in one of my Indys, and Ive drove lots of different BEC's over the years, the zx9 is a great
engine, your not going to notice that much difference, I would spend my money on set up, weight reduction, shocks, brakes and improving driving
skills.
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Steve Hignett
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 04:04 PM |
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I'll be agreeing with Messr's Mr Fisher and Mr Hellfire on this one (big surprise obv!)
In fact, I'll go one step further - I think going to a ZX10R does require a taller diff for sure, but I think the 3.14 might be thre perfect
one, but for pure feel of how it drives in comparison to your current ZX9 setup - I'd be willing to bet that it might just feel slower or at
least a bit more mundane to drive due to it's characteristics...
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roadrunner
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| posted on 24/9/11 at 07:01 PM |
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It could do with the engine being set up by a pro. I will see if I can get it set up before its off the road then make my decision.
Was really looking forward to the 10r though.
Brad
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roadrunner
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| posted on 29/9/11 at 11:50 AM |
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Has anyone gone zx9 to zx10 before. If so do the 9 headers fit the zx10 engine. It could save me a few quid.
Brad.
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gmoto
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| posted on 17/10/11 at 02:27 AM |
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I would expect the headers won't fit the zx10, but afraid I don't have enough specific experience to be sure with these models.
If you check out aftermarket exhaust lists (ie akrapovic etc) and see which models are listed together, it should give you an idea.
If you do decide to keep the zx9 engine, I've got a tweaked head from a race bike for sale (though I used it on the road mostly) - had it
dyno'd in 03 at big-cc to show 143hp at the rear wheels with a lovely smooth torque line (two less than a zzr1200 that was on the dyno the same
day).
As far as I know the modifications to the head were the only changes to the engine - it was matched with jetting changes and a full race exhaust
system.
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