speedthing
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| posted on 11/9/02 at 09:59 PM |
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rads
HI guys
what is the best radiator to use with the
pinto engine i have looked at nissan micras
they look cool and compact but dont no if thay can cope with that old pinto. 
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bob
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| posted on 11/9/02 at 10:30 PM |
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Your right the micra rad does look a smart compact set up,but not sure if it will cope.
The bike engine boys seem to like them though.
I've got an escort MKII rad,not fitted it yet as i want to have a look at volvo 340 rad.I've seen one used on a pinto 2litre locost,they hold a fair
amount of water and have thermo switch for fan already in rad.
When i finally find one i'll measure up to check. 
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speedthing
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| posted on 12/9/02 at 05:40 PM |
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thanks bob i will have a look for 340s at
the weekend. 
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bob
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| posted on 12/9/02 at 06:31 PM |
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Alun
If you find one let us know what you think,and measurements if you can.
Cheers
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zetec
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| posted on 12/9/02 at 07:00 PM |
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I got a new Polo from local trade outlet for £40 which just goes in a MK nose cone. Man in the know at Dunnels says will be ok for up to 200BHP.
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DEAN C.
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| posted on 12/9/02 at 08:09 PM |
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Hi,I've got a mk2 escort as well.Same rad is in mk1 escort,and most cortinas.
Some of the flanges on the sides need trimming to fit in the nosecone.
Good thing is that if it's not quite cool enough it can easily be changed for a three core job.There are quite a few places to buy these from or any
local rad repairer can make them up.
A friend of mine (Rob Lane) has a three core rad and this runs too cool for his Toyota ,so I'll see how the standard escort rad works first.These can
be picked up new from autojumbles for about £15.I've picked two up this way.
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bob
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| posted on 12/9/02 at 08:36 PM |
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I got my escort rad new as well,its a case of suckit and see then but i cant complain as i paid £15 too.
Kevin
Just for the record though,the polo rad is interesting.Is there a specific year and type though?
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speedthing
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| posted on 13/9/02 at 06:38 PM |
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i have looked at the rad in my trusty mk3
ford capri its H19.5 ins at the cap and
W17ins at the sides(main body of rad) the sides are more 20ins but these can be cut down but not sure about the bottom water
inlet may be a bit tight
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rogercollier
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| posted on 13/9/02 at 06:47 PM |
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quote:
A friend of mine (Rob Lane) has a three core rad and this runs too cool for his Toyota ,so I'll see how the standard escort rad works first.
You seem to be a little confused about how
the cooling system works. Do you know what
a thermostat is?
And would anyone care to guess how much a new
rad for a Soarer costs? :-(
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DEAN C.
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| posted on 14/9/02 at 11:11 AM |
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Think you're a little confused yourself!
Cooling is all about capacity.If the rad is too large in capacity the temperature never gets warm enough to open the stat.Rob has to cover part of his
rad off in order for the stat. to open. Some of us do this for a living! Doh!
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interestedparty
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| posted on 14/9/02 at 02:21 PM |
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But surely there is very little flow of coolant through the radiator UNTIL the thermostat opens. How can the quantity of water in the radiator make
any difference?
John
As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list-- I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed-- who never would be missed!
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DEAN C.
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| posted on 14/9/02 at 05:28 PM |
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Hi,yes you're quite correct the engine will warm up and open the stat.
But in the case I mentioned the 3 core escort aftermarket rad was too much for the Toyota 4age engine the same as I have fitted.Once the engine had
built some temperature it soon dropped again once on the move.This caused the injection engine
to run far too rich due to the cold start injector constantly running.This would also cause erratic running of the injection system due to the engine
temp varying all the time.
Size does matter sometimes!
For most of you using standard or mildly tuned Ford pintos etc. you will have very few problems with any of the rads mentioned.
Pintos etc seem to run fine on polo or escort standard rads,only needing special 3 core jobs when tuned or driven hard.
Hope this clears up my earlier confusing piece as Roger seemed to think I was using a Toyota rad.
All the best Dean.
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rogercollier
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| posted on 15/9/02 at 12:11 AM |
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quote:
Think you're a little confused yourself!
Cooling is all about capacity.If the rad is too large in capacity the temperature never gets warm enough to open the stat.Rob has to cover part of his
rad off in order for the stat. to open. Some of us do this for a living! Doh!
Cough, as the doctors say. Your radiator can
be too small but it can never be too large.
You do this for a living?
I suggest you change to selling snake oil :-)
Roger.
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speedthing
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| posted on 15/9/02 at 10:17 AM |
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HI bob
have been down the scrapyard volvo 340 rads
w25ins h15ins some volvo440 rads are w18ins
h15ins vw golf and polo w19ins h13ins
renault clieo or 5 w19.5ins h15ins
hope this is of help
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DEAN C.
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| posted on 15/9/02 at 09:16 PM |
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Roger,Why do we all cover part of our rads in cold weather,I think we should agree to disagree, Bye! 
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bob
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| posted on 15/9/02 at 09:24 PM |
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quote:
HI bob
have been down the scrapyard volvo 340 rads
w25ins h15ins some volvo440 rads are w18ins
h15ins vw golf and polo w19ins h13ins
renault clieo or 5 w19.5ins h15ins
hope this is of help
Well the 340 seems a bit wide to me,i'd never get that in.
I'll stick with the MKll escort rad and if it runs hot i'll get the fan to cut in earlier or make it bigger.
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locodude
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| posted on 15/9/02 at 09:32 PM |
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Oi!
Just a minute, an argument that I'm not involved in? Never. Right here goes. Believe it or not I run a Micra rad and yes I know it's a Jap! 1700
x-flow, twin 40's etc.... Track day at elvington, 20 min sessions, temp never above 1/2 way. Will do a standard pinto no sweat ( as proved by Tony
Skelding on this years Le mans trip).
Chris PTM
Track day whore!!! 
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bob
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| posted on 15/9/02 at 09:37 PM |
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Well i'm glad thats sorted then
One thing though,what the hell is a mira?
Are they letting her out then 
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locodude
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| posted on 15/9/02 at 10:04 PM |
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Ok,ok,ok, post edited. Jesus they don't let you get away with anything on this list!
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speedthing
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| posted on 16/9/02 at 06:14 PM |
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i think i will go for the micra rad on my
2ltr pinto
cheers mate
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bob
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| posted on 2/12/02 at 08:42 AM |
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DEAN
forgot to tell you,spoke to well known engine builder locally some months ago.
He has the same opinion and also said pintos will run on very little water
I'm happy with the MK2 escort rad i got brand new for 15 quid,martini car parts are selling them for £18 now in a box and also sell fans from £12.
07798722366
[Edited on 2/12/02 by bob]
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Viper
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| posted on 2/12/02 at 07:19 PM |
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Tuned pinto's or any pinto for that matter definatley don't like to get too hot the power drops away big time...
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 3/12/02 at 10:22 AM |
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Personally I would suspect that the thermostat was not working properly if it was un-able to maintain engine operating temperature once the engine was
hot, I.E it was sticking open!
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wicket
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| posted on 3/12/02 at 02:01 PM |
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Is it the 1 litre mk 2 Polo rad ?
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Stu16v
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| posted on 3/12/02 at 02:15 PM |
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IIRC Yes.
Dont just build it.....make it!
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