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rachaeljf

posted on 10/1/12 at 10:18 PM Reply With Quote
What's wrong with this picture?


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MakeEverything

posted on 10/1/12 at 10:21 PM Reply With Quote
Nyloc nuts on a turbo exhaust?

[Edited on 10-1-12 by MakeEverything]





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matt_gsxr

posted on 10/1/12 at 10:22 PM Reply With Quote
where do the wastegate gases go?

Nylocks don't like turbo temperatures.

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posted on 10/1/12 at 10:22 PM Reply With Quote
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rachaeljf

posted on 10/1/12 at 10:34 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks gents. I just wanted to know I wasn't losing it.

I won't bore you with all the history. Suffice to say the perpetrator of this horror is a mechanic somewhere north of the border, well known in Uno Turbo circles, revered by a bunch of people on bookface as some sort of demigod and has lots of misguided people eating out of his hand. I called him out a couple of times for dodgy advice to others and I have been crucified and character assassinated as a result. The pic above shows his latest masterpiece.

For myself, I have degrees in aeronautical and civil engineering and I work as a specialist structural/civil consultant in railways. I have assisted (for free - even though I take the professional liability) a couple of people here. I have a number of Fiat/Lancia restorations and major modifications on the go. One of the jibes at me is I pay a guy to do my fabrication work for me, so I must be a numpty.

I rest my case.

Edit: You got 2 out of 2 deliberate mistakes!

[Edited on 10/1/12 by rachaeljf]

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TAZZMAXX

posted on 10/1/12 at 10:38 PM Reply With Quote
At least they'll undo easily when the time comes
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Steve Hignett

posted on 10/1/12 at 11:01 PM Reply With Quote
If you do leather him forhis Nyloc error, just make sure that this photo wasn't taken at a build-up/temporary stage...


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rachaeljf

posted on 10/1/12 at 11:08 PM Reply With Quote
He's been running it and tuning it on MegaSquirt

http://www.facebook.com/groups/130553130294145/

He also advocates fitting a lower on/off temperature rad fan switch to improve cooling on an otherwise standard tintop. Can't imagine why we all don't have rad fans running continuously to really improve cooling?

Anyway, enough of the bitching. I'll shut up now.

[Edited on 10/1/12 by rachaeljf]

[Edited on 11/1/12 by rachaeljf]

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MikeR

posted on 10/1/12 at 11:25 PM Reply With Quote
As I explained to a lad i work with (on more than one occasion) - is it worth the hassle?
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designer

posted on 10/1/12 at 11:29 PM Reply With Quote
Brass nuts on steel studs on exhaust.
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rachaeljf

posted on 10/1/12 at 11:31 PM Reply With Quote
No, but when this puffed up "professional mechanic" gives advice that will make an innocent trusting punter go out and buy a fan switch he doesn't need and then proceed to damage his engine through overcooling, I felt the need to put him right. Now it seems I'm a sad old drunken bitch. Just wanted to get it off my chest as they say.
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NigeEss

posted on 10/1/12 at 11:47 PM Reply With Quote
Some "experts" are only so because of their own disillusions.





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bi22le

posted on 10/1/12 at 11:53 PM Reply With Quote
Non heat treated pipe approx 3" from exhaust?





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rachaeljf

posted on 10/1/12 at 11:59 PM Reply With Quote
Yes, good spot. The engine is not a standard Uno Turbo, it's using an X1/9 block. Hence he has had to use the coolant drain plug as his coolant feed to the turbo. It is closer to the exhaust than the UT's water feed would be. So even though it carries coolant it will perish. Turbo X1/9s build up fearsome heat under the lid as it's so cramped with no airflow.
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Dusty

posted on 11/1/12 at 12:03 AM Reply With Quote
The evidence he's been running it like this is there in the oozing melted nylon from the nylocks, so not a build up photo..
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Steve Hignett

posted on 11/1/12 at 02:32 AM Reply With Quote
I'm looking at the pic on an old laptop - And to me, it could also look like it's been on/off a few times, so the nylon often gets stripped away in a similar helical manner. (In my humble opinion)

Either way, I merely wanted to prevent the OP looking silly as her first few posts seem to carry a genuine sense of care for her fellow Fiat lovers...

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ashg

posted on 11/1/12 at 08:01 AM Reply With Quote
there is a rubber hose rite near the down pipe thats gonna melt pretty quick





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rachaeljf

posted on 11/1/12 at 08:32 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks Steve, you can see wisps of nylon string hanging off the nuts, obviously melted, but I think the nylocs are the least of his worries.

Anyway, I'm not going to go on about it, just wanted my sanity confirmed!

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bobinspain

posted on 11/1/12 at 08:36 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rachaeljf
No, but when this puffed up "professional mechanic" gives advice that will make an innocent trusting punter go out and buy a fan switch he doesn't need and then proceed to damage his engine through overcooling, I felt the need to put him right. Now it seems I'm a sad old drunken bitch. Just wanted to get it off my chest as they say.



Hey, less of the 'old.'
Had a Mike Spence modded Uno Turbo with water injection. Grin-factor was off the scale.
Power to your elbow!

Bob.

[Edited on 11/1/12 by bobinspain]

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mark chandler

posted on 11/1/12 at 08:58 AM Reply With Quote
If that's the waste gate actuating arm in the top left corner then it looks like he has managed to shroud this with his 3/8" plate, the result will be a broken turbo in short order as it will over speed and stall rapidly... not good, there should be a blended in second pipe IMHO joining the top.

The nasty fast turn and size does not help power either, I expect it makes the pressure okay but will be consuming a lot of power to do so.

And I am no expert, if it looks wrong it probally is wrong

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tomgregory2000

posted on 11/1/12 at 09:16 AM Reply With Quote
Its a fiat

What do i win?

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rachaeljf

posted on 11/1/12 at 09:59 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tomgregory2000
Its a fiat

What do i win?


Cheeky sod! Go to your room.

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rachaeljf

posted on 11/1/12 at 10:24 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
If that's the waste gate actuating arm in the top left corner then it looks like he has managed to shroud this with his 3/8" plate, the result will be a broken turbo in short order as it will over speed and stall rapidly... not good, there should be a blended in second pipe IMHO joining the top.

The nasty fast turn and size does not help power either, I expect it makes the pressure okay but will be consuming a lot of power to do so.

And I am no expert, if it looks wrong it probally is wrong


Spot on Mark! Unfortunately space constraints in these cars dictates the sharp bend if you want to keep the standard alternator (which has to be shielded and given its own cool air duct) and the handy "hot-box" rear boot, so I'll give him that.

Thanks for the replies everyone, I was beginning to think the emperor's new clothes were real.

Cheers R

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A1

posted on 11/1/12 at 12:03 PM Reply With Quote
can you mention the name of this guy? im not wanting a big slating match, just curious as to who he is. otherwise every business up here will be avoided
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loggyboy

posted on 11/1/12 at 12:05 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by A1
can you mention the name of this guy? im not wanting a big slating match, just curious as to who he is. otherwise every business up here will be avoided


In the facebook link the chaps name is Charlie Whyte - I assume its him?

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