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Author: Subject: Are the old ways the best?
Mark Allanson

posted on 5/9/04 at 07:35 PM Reply With Quote
Are the old ways the best?

At work, I have £18k of suspension diagnostic equipment at my disposal, but it takes about an hour to set up the car on the system, and for a locost (not on the computer database surprisingly enough!) it takes about 1/2 hour to add your own software.

I am having some doubt over my rear suspension, so today I checked everything, I drop checked the chassis, everything spot on, and I also checked the castor, to check my modified wishbones. They came out with exactly what I expected/hoped for.

Here is the kit I used to check! Rescued attachment Castor 1.jpg
Rescued attachment Castor 1.jpg






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Mark Allanson

posted on 5/9/04 at 07:36 PM Reply With Quote
I have 22mm of setback, just what I wanted! Rescued attachment Castor 2.jpg
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rusty nuts

posted on 5/9/04 at 08:14 PM Reply With Quote
Cutting edge technology, who needs it?? Rusty
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Viper

posted on 5/9/04 at 08:16 PM Reply With Quote
String computers are still used by a lot of race teams..






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Mark Allanson

posted on 5/9/04 at 08:34 PM Reply With Quote
There is a realy self satisfied, smug feeling when that last diagonal twangs down a nice chalk line dead on target!





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Northy

posted on 5/9/04 at 09:27 PM Reply With Quote
Sorry old-timers, I don't understand old money!

So when's it gonna be finished Mark? If you weren't so far away I'd come and help you! Come to think of it I could do with a holiday!





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Mark Allanson

posted on 5/9/04 at 10:06 PM Reply With Quote
Room for a tent in the back garden, not far off now. Front calipers need a refurb, cycle wings in progress, wiring - waiting for the man who does, paint - SVA!





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David Jenkins

posted on 6/9/04 at 07:26 AM Reply With Quote
Mark,

To encourage you... I made my top wishbones to give around 22mm setback, and the steering makes a clear effort to self-centre from a standing start.

rgds,

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James

posted on 6/9/04 at 09:51 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Viper
String computers are still used by a lot of race teams..


I know a well known Formula1 team that still uses string!

James

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Northy

posted on 6/9/04 at 12:13 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by James

I know a well known Formula1 team that still uses string!

James


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ned

posted on 6/9/04 at 12:17 PM Reply With Quote
i'm sure if he told you he'd have to kill you, it's all very hush hush

Ned.





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stephen_gusterson

posted on 6/9/04 at 01:05 PM Reply With Quote
I wouldnt bother with the string.

You could set the car up by eye, cos however its done, the german bloke would still blow all else into the weeds.

Formula one is like Arsenal Vs Accrington Stanley at the moment, and Accrinton forgot to turn up.....

atb

steve

ps - do you think ferrari would use spaghetti?






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locost_bryan

posted on 7/9/04 at 04:33 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
the german bloke would still blow all else into the weeds.


you mean that bloke wot finished second at Spa then guv?





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JoelP

posted on 7/9/04 at 07:21 AM Reply With Quote
yup, that one! and what car was in front of him? balck and something IIRC...

thats what you need, a good finn.






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James

posted on 7/9/04 at 11:17 AM Reply With Quote
Just guessing but I reckon it was probably that absolutely brilliant set of gears he had in his gearbox that did it for him!


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ned

posted on 7/9/04 at 11:32 AM Reply With Quote
was that the special low friction, high power coating you dipped them i then





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stephen_gusterson

posted on 7/9/04 at 12:25 PM Reply With Quote
isnt that only 2 races this year that schu hasnt won..... thats summat like an 85% success rate.

Think my statement stands!

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steve


PS - I havnt watched a race for yonks as F1 at present is a defective product.



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quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
the german bloke would still blow all else into the weeds.


you mean that bloke wot finished second at Spa then guv?







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locost_bryan

posted on 8/9/04 at 04:38 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
I havnt watched a race for yonks as F1 at present is a defective product


... that's why the main advertiser during our coverage is Nescafe coffee

hopefully Spa wasn't a one-off - crashes, engine failures, real overtaking





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James

posted on 8/9/04 at 07:25 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
isnt that only 2 races this year that schu hasnt won..... thats summat like an 85% success rate.



Yup! And he only lost at Monaco after Montoya drove into the back of him.
And as far as Spa goes- he was lapping much quicker than Raikkonen, if it hadn't been for the ridiculous amount of time the safety car was out just befoe the end then it would have been a tight finish to say the least!

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stephen_gusterson

posted on 8/9/04 at 09:13 AM Reply With Quote
the sceptic in me makes me think they lost on purpose, to add a bit more interest cos he'd won the championship already in that position.....


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marktigere1

posted on 8/9/04 at 01:00 PM Reply With Quote
Come back Damon Hill.

The only driver in the last 10 years to give Schuey a bl@@dy good run for his money. The only bloke who refused to yield to him unlike today.

I still laugh at the 94 season when everyone said the Williams was a better car than the Benetton. Someone obviously forgot to tell Senna because he said the car was not great and needed more work. Still put it on pole twice though!!

A very sad loss to F1. If he was still driving, I don't believe Mr S would have it all his own way.

Cheers

Mark





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skinny

posted on 8/9/04 at 02:51 PM Reply With Quote
agree re senna, a real shame about that, he should not have gone to williams tho - nothing better than a yellow helmet poking out of the white and red maclaren.





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stephen_gusterson

posted on 8/9/04 at 03:00 PM Reply With Quote
also sadly, mr senna would have been 44 now, and likely retired about 6 years ago. Still wouldnt have stopped the kraut......

One of the best wahhhhaaayyyy moments ive seen was Damon overtaking Shu at the hungarian GP in 1997 (lapping him actually) in a totally shyte Arrows.


Actually, thats probably the last bit of great GP I saw.......... 1997.


A challenge.

Post your own 'post Damon great GP moments'. Ideally, involving overtaking (ooopps, bit resticting) and not the german.


takers.....?


atb

steve






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andyps

posted on 8/9/04 at 09:49 PM Reply With Quote
Hakinnen overtaking the Cobbler at Spa whilst they were lapping Massa for one.

Montoya overtaking the cobbler at Spa on the outside this year.

Coulthard overtaking the Cobbler at the French GP when he went on to win

....................................





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stephen_gusterson

posted on 8/9/04 at 10:07 PM Reply With Quote
Ok

thats 3 good moments out of 7years of racing

7 x 17 (approx) = 119 races...........


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steve






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