Opirun
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| posted on 1/4/13 at 03:35 PM |
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Kit with bike engine
Hi all,
I am quite new to the forum and trying to plan my first kit build, I want to build a bike engined kit. Trying to iron out which kit and engine to go
for as I feel these are to two biggest decisions to be made. I thought I would post in the engines section to find out about people experiences and
suggestions. From another post, someone mentioned that an important engine decision to be made is weather to go for carb or fuel injected. I have
decided due to cost reasons to go for a carbed option. It seems that the R1 and fireblade engine are a popular choice (especially for cost reasons).
How difficult it is to get these carbed engine options to pass the emissions tests and integrate into a kit (looking at MK, tiger, Aires, Mac#1, as
these seem to suit my budget).
Thanks.
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ReMan
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| posted on 1/4/13 at 04:10 PM |
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Would be better in th BEC section
Get a pre 95 engine and there are few emission worries
Otherwise, nothing that cant be tweeaked on later engines to pass.
Worry closer to the time
www.plusnine.co.uk
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MK9R
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| posted on 1/4/13 at 05:34 PM |
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The issue you have with a carved engine, is getting a good'un. They will be old engines now and getting one cheap isn't an issue, but
getting a good cheap one isn't. The old 919 blade is excellent and pretty bomb proof, but suffer with 3rd &4th gear dogs wearing, and as
this is a common issue 2nd hand dogs don't really exist you have to buy new. A rebuild if done by yourself will be getting on for £400. This is
the reason rgb scrapped the class c (carbed blade class) as it was not financially viable as a refreshed blade engine was costing more than a newer
injection model.
If I were you I'd be looking at an r1 5vy (04-06), blade 954 or maybe a zx10 of the same era (although not as well suited to prop drive cars as
the other 2 due to gear ratios). There is also the k4-5 gixer, but this isnt as common or as well tested as the others
[Edited on 1/4/13 by MK9R]
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
www.automatedtechnologygroup.co.uk
www.trackace.co.uk
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Opirun
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| posted on 1/4/13 at 06:13 PM |
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Thanks MK9R, I suspected from my initial search that finding a good old engine is going to be a little bit of a challenge but I guess not
impossible.
Thanks for all the information that I didn't know about the engines, found some prices.
YAMAHA YZF R1 5VY 2004-2006 ENGINE MOTOR KIT CAR 18000 MILES WARRANTY BREAKING | eBay
These 900 blades seem good value
Honda CBR900 CBR 900 RR Fireblade 97 ''RRV'' Engine Assembly - Read Description | eBay
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MK9R
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| posted on 1/4/13 at 06:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Opirun
Thanks MK9R, I suspected from my initial search that finding a good old engine is going to be a little bit of a challenge but I guess not
impossible.
Thanks for all the information that I didn't know about the engines, found some prices.
YAMAHA YZF R1 5VY 2004-2006 ENGINE MOTOR KIT CAR 18000 MILES WARRANTY BREAKING | eBay
These 900 blades seem good value
Honda CBR900 CBR 900 RR Fireblade 97 ''RRV'' Engine Assembly - Read Description | eBay
Don't forget you need the carbs/throttle bodies loom, coils and ECU. Best off buying it as a package as costly to buy on their own.
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
www.automatedtechnologygroup.co.uk
www.trackace.co.uk
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MK9R
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| posted on 1/4/13 at 06:33 PM |
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If you decide on an older carb engine don't forget the zx9 c1 or c2. Had a c2 in my Stuart Taylor (Aries), strong engine, a bit let frenzied
with a bit more torque than the blade lower down. Were also cheaper 
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
www.automatedtechnologygroup.co.uk
www.trackace.co.uk
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ReMan
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| posted on 1/4/13 at 06:37 PM |
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Sorry, you,ve lost me
Youve got three threads around the same questions.
I respectfully suggest that you elaborate on your budget, building skills, timeframe and preferences and we could be more objective then
Edited to add, SORRY, that was not meant to sound ARSY!
Just trying to help 
[Edited on 1/4/13 by ReMan]
www.plusnine.co.uk
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MK9R
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| posted on 1/4/13 at 06:38 PM |
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A lot of kit for the dosh
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=281073970984
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
www.automatedtechnologygroup.co.uk
www.trackace.co.uk
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PAUL FISHER
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| posted on 1/4/13 at 06:51 PM |
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All your options would be cracking cars, ive never owned a Tiger, but ive had two of the cars on your list, but also had nothing but great service and
help from Mac1 over the years, as both MK and Mac1 ar local to me, My first car was a MK Indy with a fuel injected 929cc fireblade but the 954cc is
even better, the 929cc was the first of the injected blade engines, superb engine, and no problem with IVA with a good "Cat" fitted, and I
would always go for injection again if I was building another car to get through IVA, and always top service from MK, nice easy build, a top quality
car, loved it. After that built a MK R ZX10R, and I even turbocharged it at one point, not that I would go the turbo BEC again, but again a cracking
car, and first class back up from MK Sportcars, I then sold it and took a break from kit cars for a couple of years, after that I purchased a Aries/
Stuart Taylor Fireblade 893cc pre 95 so no problems with IVA due to no Cat etc, but a great chassis, again top quality, what a car, I loved it, but I
would like to own either a MK or Aries or a Mac1 in the future, but do go and visit them all, and take your choice, you will not go wrong with any of
them
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Opirun
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| posted on 1/4/13 at 07:51 PM |
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Thanks again PAUL FISHER, I am hearing lots of good things about the fireblades, 954 and kit options. Sounds like it definitely helps to have the kit
supplier close to you.
I am also now considering the options for fuel injected and try weigh out the costs comparisons with the carbed option in the short and long term.
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