jacko
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| posted on 30/5/13 at 05:41 PM |
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Fox problems
Hi All
can anyone tell me how to make a 12v electric fence [ cheaply] i have a fish pond and a fox keeps coming to try and get a meal
I would use the fence at night and turn it of though the day
Jacko
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Aaron_n_Sim
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| posted on 30/5/13 at 06:00 PM |
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chicken wire, car battery & trickle charger.
Work to Live don't Live to Work
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jacko
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| posted on 30/5/13 at 06:10 PM |
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How do i wire all this up please you have got me interested as i have all these things
Jacko
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mookaloid
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| posted on 30/5/13 at 06:15 PM |
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eBay Item would this be any good?
I imagine it comes with instructions..
Cheers
M
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 30/5/13 at 06:21 PM |
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or either of these and a friend with an FAC...
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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jacko
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| posted on 30/5/13 at 06:37 PM |
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Sorry guns are OUT in my garden / home
Jacko
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jacko
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| posted on 30/5/13 at 06:41 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid
eBay Item would this be any good?
I imagine it comes with instructions..
Cheers
M
Hi Mark i have just been looking on Ebay lots to choose at but it would be nice if i could make something diy 
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mookaloid
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| posted on 30/5/13 at 06:50 PM |
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You can build one - instructions here
You could spend a few quid on the transformers etc needed
But if only for safety I would spend the £30 and get a properly designed one. It would be awful if some kiddy got electrocuted by a DIY effort.
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 30/5/13 at 06:52 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jacko
Sorry guns are OUT in my garden / home
Jacko
But you'll electrocute an animal over and over again!
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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Peteff
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| posted on 30/5/13 at 07:22 PM |
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Adapt one of those toning belt things, they give you a decent kick when they are turned up.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Stot
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| posted on 30/5/13 at 07:34 PM |
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Shottie of FAC for me too, but you could try urine (mens) around your borders/fences. The scent can help keep foxes out of your garden.
Cheers
Stot
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jacko
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| posted on 30/5/13 at 07:41 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MakeEverything
quote:
Originally posted by jacko
Sorry guns are OUT in my garden / home
Jacko
But you'll electrocute an animal over and over again!
No not electrocute just a shock like in cattle / horse fields
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Aaron_n_Sim
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| posted on 30/5/13 at 07:45 PM |
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I suggested a low voltage electric fence because I love foxes, had 2 as pets, rescued as cubs raised liked dogs, equally as loyal, perhaps I should
come along and shoot your dogs, all animals were wild once dogs included, who are we to decide which should be domesticated!! circle of life n all,
stop keeping fox food as pets!!!
[Edited on 30/5/13 by Aaron_n_Sim]
Work to Live don't Live to Work
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jacko
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| posted on 30/5/13 at 08:15 PM |
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ELECTRIC FENCE ENERGISER - 12VDc To 1000 Volts HERRONS | eBay
The choice is the above or a big net so i think it will be the above at £29.99 and animal friendly too
Jacko
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Daddylonglegs
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| posted on 30/5/13 at 09:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Aaron_n_Sim
I suggested a low voltage electric fence because I love foxes, had 2 as pets, rescued as cubs raised liked dogs, equally as loyal, perhaps I should
come along and shoot your dogs, all animals were wild once dogs included, who are we to decide which should be domesticated!! circle of life n all,
stop keeping fox food as pets!!!
[Edited on 30/5/13 by Aaron_n_Sim]
Without starting a war chap, I love animals to bits, but having seen/had several massacres of allsorts of animals by a family of foxes - and not one
thing eaten!! - just to 'teach the cubs how to kill........ 'nuff said.
We all have our opinions....
It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......
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Aaron_n_Sim
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| posted on 31/5/13 at 01:14 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Daddylonglegs
quote:
Originally posted by Aaron_n_Sim
I suggested a low voltage electric fence because I love foxes, had 2 as pets, rescued as cubs raised liked dogs, equally as loyal, perhaps I should
come along and shoot your dogs, all animals were wild once dogs included, who are we to decide which should be domesticated!! circle of life n all,
stop keeping fox food as pets!!!
[Edited on 30/5/13 by Aaron_n_Sim]
Without starting a war chap, I love animals to bits, but having seen/had several massacres of allsorts of animals by a family of foxes - and not one
thing eaten!! - just to 'teach the cubs how to kill........ 'nuff said.
We all have our opinions....
It's nature my friend, we encroach on THEIR land, keep wild animals as pets, when i had a cottage in a field i used to watch my cat teach the
kitten we kept hunt baby rabbits (kittens) cruel maybe natural definitely. I'm as guilty as the next man!! Reptile keeper! I feed my snakes rats
once a week, only because law says letting them hunt live food is bloodsport.
Work to Live don't Live to Work
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Aaron_n_Sim
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| posted on 31/5/13 at 01:35 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Aaron_n_Sim
quote:
Originally posted by Daddylonglegs
quote:
Originally posted by Aaron_n_Sim
I suggested a low voltage electric fence because I love foxes, had 2 as pets, rescued as cubs raised liked dogs, equally as loyal, perhaps I should
come along and shoot your dogs, all animals were wild once dogs included, who are we to decide which should be domesticated!! circle of life n all,
stop keeping fox food as pets!!!
[Edited on 30/5/13 by Aaron_n_Sim]
Without starting a war chap, I love animals to bits, but having seen/had several massacres of allsorts of animals by a family of foxes - and not one
thing eaten!! - just to 'teach the cubs how to kill........ 'nuff said.
We all have our opinions....
It's nature my friend, we encroach on THEIR land, keep wild animals as pets, when i had a cottage in a field i used to watch my cat teach the
kitten we kept hunt baby rabbits (kittens) cruel maybe natural definitely. I'm as guilty as the next man!! Reptile keeper! I feed my snakes rats
once a week, only because law says letting them hunt live food is bloodsport.
Look I don't want to sound like a wan**r so perhaps if I put it ths way, if I live in the country and a deer (venison) walks into my garden it
could be £150 gain if its a fox it could be £150 loss! Seems a simple way of putting it without offending anyone
Work to Live don't Live to Work
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spiderman
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| posted on 31/5/13 at 01:35 AM |
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try this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJdLtxqL2LM
Spider
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Aaron_n_Sim
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| posted on 31/5/13 at 01:41 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by spiderman
try this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJdLtxqL2LM
No disrespect but if it doesn't kill and deters I'm all for it.but foxes kill its nature, don't like it then feed and domesticate
it, I'm all for anything that doesn't kil,
Work to Live don't Live to Work
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 31/5/13 at 06:49 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Aaron_n_Sim
quote:
Originally posted by spiderman
try this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJdLtxqL2LM
No disrespect but if it doesn't kill and deters I'm all for it.but foxes kill its nature, don't like it then feed and domesticate
it, I'm all for anything that doesn't kil,
I don't like killing animals either which is why an electric fence is an excellent solution, they deter but don't kill. A neighbour
recently had a load of his chickens massacred by an urban fox, so whilst I think they are amazing creatures and I would never kill one, I also
wouldn't have any qualms about using an electric fence to keep them away.
However, hooking up a 12v car battery to a fence won't do anything at all, unless it touches it with it's nose whilst standing on wet
ground, and even then it will be a tingle rather than a shock.
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tegwin
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| posted on 31/5/13 at 08:54 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
However, hooking up a 12v car battery to a fence won't do anything at all, unless it touches it with it's nose whilst standing on wet
ground, and even then it will be a tingle rather than a shock.
Have you ever touched an electric fence!? It is NOT just a tickle! 
(edit to say...you are right, just a 12V battery won't do anything...you need a transformer to step that voltage up a bit :p)
[Edited on 31/5/13 by tegwin]
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scootz
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| posted on 31/5/13 at 09:18 AM |
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Has the fox actually eaten any fish? Could it just be stopping at your pond for a drink?
It's Evolution Baby!
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 31/5/13 at 10:04 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by tegwin
quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
However, hooking up a 12v car battery to a fence won't do anything at all, unless it touches it with it's nose whilst standing on wet
ground, and even then it will be a tingle rather than a shock.
Have you ever touched an electric fence!? It is NOT just a tickle!
(edit to say...you are right, just a 12V battery won't do anything...you need a transformer to step that voltage up a bit :p)
[Edited on 31/5/13 by tegwin]
Both my grandparents had farms, so I learned about electric fences from a young age. When we were younger, fitter and much more stupid my brother and
I used to have competitions to see how long we could hold the fence for, and yes it does hurt a lot. Not as bad as an ignition coil though, and had
plenty of shocks from them as well (lots of experimenting with spark generators as a lad).
[Edited on 31/5/13 by MikeRJ]
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Not Anumber
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| posted on 31/5/13 at 01:48 PM |
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ignition coil and a PIR ?
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jacko
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| posted on 31/5/13 at 06:59 PM |
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How high dose a fence have to be to stop a fox coming over it ?
Today i have been looking around my back garden [ where the pond is ] and i think there is only one area that a fox will get in
I have a 2m wood fence on two sides and a garage at the bottom of the garden so the only way it would get in is between the house and one of the
fences [there is conifer trees along that part with gaps under then ]
looks like i will be putting a third fence up there 
That must be better then messing about with electric fences don't you all think ?
Jacko
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