ned
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posted on 25/11/04 at 12:42 PM |
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garage - what to do...
I am collecting a free marley single garage at the weekend to erect at home so hopefully I can have the car at home at last (which will vastly aid
build time over travelling 25 miles away) classing it as a portable building I shouldn''t have to worry about planning for it, it's
also within the correct size to come under permitted development anyway.
I'm hoping to apply for planning to build a ground floor extension in the new year to include a new garage, utility etc attached ot the house
and want it to be as simple as possible to remove the temporary 'put me up' (probably an ad on ebay for buyer to dismantle!)
Now I don't know whether to move the car home and then rent a council lockup to shift the car into if i do build an extension and whether to
bother damp proofing the base i have to lay for the temporary garage...
Anyone been in a similar position? suggestions welcomed..
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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midlifecrisis
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posted on 25/11/04 at 01:01 PM |
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I did this in my last house ,with a single pre cast garage I widened to 2-car width .didnt use d/proof membrane ,never noticed the difference. BUT
didnt use re-inforcing mesh in the base . despite making the base very thick ,it cracked all over the place ! My present pre cast , stands direct on
the drive outside my house ,but I had to cast a 6" high x 6" wide 'wall 'of concrete to stand the 3 sides on ,cos it didnt
have enough head height .Dont cut corners by making it too temporary,they are very heavy,and need all the bolts,in all the right places ! Watch it if
the roof is asbestos ,apart from being dodgy unhealthy stuff it tends to sweat inside .ROD
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James
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posted on 25/11/04 at 01:23 PM |
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I'd agree with midlifecrisis about being careful with the garage- those concrete blocks are bloody heavy (feel even heavier if the fall on
you!). Just ask ChrisG he has the garage-falling-on-your-knees scars to prove it! And don't f'ck around with the asbestos either-
asbestosis is extremely nasty!
As for what to do with the garage- I'd consider using both! Keep the chassis and large stuff in the warehouse and use the Marley as a garage.
Yes, it would mean you'd need to be organised but you could build your engine and stuff at home and make stuff there whilst bolting it all
together where the chassis is. Just an idea!
Atb,
James
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ned
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posted on 25/11/04 at 01:44 PM |
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james - more likely to be other way round - car at home (once chassis finished, painted and rolling), build engine somewhere else!
beware, I've got yellow skin
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James
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posted on 25/11/04 at 01:51 PM |
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Yeah, ok.
Only issue I see with that is that bolting all the (post rolling) bits on is when you need the space! And a single garage that's gonna make it
harder.
Better still- keep them all together. I'd recommend you move house!
James
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ned
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posted on 25/11/04 at 01:53 PM |
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so james, you busy on saturday morning then? fancy giving me a hand?
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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James
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posted on 25/11/04 at 02:05 PM |
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Unfortunately I'll be at work Saturday am- sorry about that!
What a choice- a nice clean server room or humping concrete blocks and asbestos around with you- gutted about having to work I tell you!
James
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Jasper
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posted on 25/11/04 at 02:10 PM |
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I can vouch for the weight of concrete garage sections - shifted a few myself and they weigh a ton - good luck!!! (BTW - I'll be at work as well
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If you're not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room.
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ned
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posted on 25/11/04 at 02:34 PM |
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booger, who else is on me list
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DarrenW
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posted on 25/11/04 at 02:43 PM |
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Ned,
Im faced with a similarish problem soon. Current garage is 13' wide and 29' long, brand new, pitched roof, remote roller door etc etc.
Wife wants to move (and no i dont want to divorce her - have thought about it but too expensive!!! - only joking). New house will probably have single
integral garage. My only solution will be to use up some garden space with nicely built shed / workshop. If i extend house in (distant) future at
least workshop can be filled with garage stuff for the build etc.
Unfortunately you have the edge on me as yours is considerably cheaper. Just a suggestion though of another possible solution.
Could the Marley garage be constructed in some garden space and later made to look nicer when you get sorted. That way you can have new garage and
somewhere for all ot the other domestic junk to go to keep the new garage a sacred 'Ned only' huffy house.
(i better explain - huffy house doesnt mean you are huffy. Northern phrase for place to get away from wife / kids when in the doghouse. i could have
also called it a pigeon cree, greyhound kennel etc)
Darren.
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ned
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posted on 25/11/04 at 02:48 PM |
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sadly the garden is tiered with a 4' retaining wall and mains sewer that would cause big complications if i were to want to build over.
the only space is beside the house, te depth of the house. we still need access round hte side of hte house and can't build beyond hte existing
front of the house as is current building regs etc.
it'll have to come down for building work to start.. eventually.
thanks for the comments though..
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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nick205
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posted on 25/11/04 at 03:28 PM |
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When you build the extension/garage could you build it around the Marley garage and then dismantle it once the roof is on the extension?
Of course you'd have to lay suitable foundations/floor first before you site the Marley garage though.
Nick
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ned
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posted on 25/11/04 at 03:30 PM |
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interesting idea nick, but don't think there'd be enough space round it to lay bricks etc and the position would have to be carefully
considerd and could change with planning..
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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midlifecrisis
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posted on 26/11/04 at 07:51 PM |
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Asembly
When I did mine ,the missus helped me to position the slabs . I started in one back corner ,got the post and 2 or 3 blocks either side of it . wife
steadying the post until it was tied in enough,I turned round to pick up another block at the point that a strong gust of wind blew ,the corner
collapsed ! why wasn't you holding it ,I asks her . She says "I shivered ,as the wind blew and let go of the post "!!!! ROD
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David Jenkins
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posted on 26/11/04 at 07:54 PM |
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I put up one of those Marley garages ages ago - don't under-estimate the weight of those slabs! 'King 'eavy!
I hope that you've got a decent wagon to collect it - it won't take many of those slabs to wreck a trailer.
Have fun...
David
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midlifecrisis
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posted on 26/11/04 at 07:56 PM |
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Picked mine up in ahired luton transit ,the thing was on the bump stops ,and relly dangerous to steer
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Cita
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posted on 26/11/04 at 08:15 PM |
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I would lay a damp screen under the floor if it doesn't help it certainly wont harm and it's fairly cheap Ned.
Be sure to lay your re-inforcement mesh on some bricks so it wont sink to the bottom when the concrete is poured.
If possible hammer some wooden sticks in the ground and levell off the tops of those sticks at the desired height (top of floor) this will help to you
to levell the concrete.
It can easely be done (bringing the wooden markers at the desired levell)with some clear plastic garden hose as bricklayers use.
Hope this is of some help.
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midlifecrisis
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posted on 26/11/04 at 11:15 PM |
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Think I'll screed the floor of me Locost!
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ned
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posted on 29/11/04 at 10:49 AM |
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got the garage home safe and sound (but the prop fell off the 4x4 on the way to return it ) 3x trips with the ifor williams loaded with 15 sections
being the most at once.. £30 of fuel was all it cost me (and a bottle of wine)
Now to start marking out the base...!
Ned...
beware, I've got yellow skin
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