theconrodkid
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| posted on 26/1/16 at 08:59 AM |
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rolling tax exemption...sign here
see below ,thanks for pointing that out guys
[Edited on 26/1/16 by theconrodkid]
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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nick205
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| posted on 26/1/16 at 09:31 AM |
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The link takes you to a webpage that asks you to click a link in an email, but never asks for an email address?
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loggyboy
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| posted on 26/1/16 at 09:34 AM |
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A pointless task IMO
but the corrected link is https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/119497
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nick205
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| posted on 26/1/16 at 09:38 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
A pointless task IMO
but the corrected link is https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/119497
That link works OK
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r1_pete
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| posted on 26/1/16 at 09:38 AM |
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Signed it because I don't think arbitrarily changing it to 40 years is right, but in reality 40 years is probably fair.
You might get a lot of emails as that was your confirmatory link 
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sprintB+
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| posted on 26/1/16 at 10:25 AM |
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Signed because it affects me ! Mr angry of Plymouth.
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nick205
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| posted on 26/1/16 at 11:10 AM |
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Not being allowed to drive currently and selling my cars it doesn't affect me right now. Things may change in future though!
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loggyboy
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| posted on 26/1/16 at 11:27 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by r1_pete
Signed it because I don't think arbitrarily changing it to 40 years is right, but in reality 40 years is probably fair.
You might get a lot of emails as that was your confirmatory link
I dont think it was arbitrarily changed - the 1973 cut off date was introduced in 1994, when it reached 40 years it was changed to be rolling.
[Edited on 26-1-16 by loggyboy]
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nick205
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| posted on 26/1/16 at 11:34 AM |
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Road tax doesn't make sense to me overall anyway - pay the fuel tax for what you use / miles you drive seems to make more sense.
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loggyboy
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| posted on 26/1/16 at 11:38 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nick205
Road tax doesn't make sense to me overall anyway - pay the fuel tax for what you use / miles you drive seems to make more sense.
I think the french introduced that principle a few years ago. Certainly would be fairer.
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nick205
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| posted on 26/1/16 at 12:28 PM |
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^^^ It would mean you pay in relation to the miles you drive / road wear you cause!
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r1_pete
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| posted on 26/1/16 at 01:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
Road tax doesn't make sense to me overall anyway - pay the fuel tax for what you use / miles you drive seems to make more sense.
I think the french introduced that principle a few years ago. Certainly would be fairer.
and toll roads on key routes.....
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r1_pete
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| posted on 26/1/16 at 01:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
quote:
Originally posted by r1_pete
Signed it because I don't think arbitrarily changing it to 40 years is right, but in reality 40 years is probably fair.
You might get a lot of emails as that was your confirmatory link
I dont think it was arbitrarily changed - the 1973 cut off date was introduced in 1994, when it reached 40 years it was changed to be rolling.
[Edited on 26-1-16 by loggyboy]
Yep you're right I've never really worried about it, as my toy cars have been 60's, my CB750's are both pre 73, and in bits
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Relph
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| posted on 26/1/16 at 05:08 PM |
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Signed.
The amount of miles you do in old or classic cars is very minimal. As they are just a fun weekend and good weather cars for the majority of owners.
If in doubt, flat out.
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cliftyhanger
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| posted on 26/1/16 at 06:13 PM |
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VED (it never has been car tax) has nothing to do withroads. Just as ciggie taxes have nothing to do with looking after sick smokers. It all goes in
the pot and is spent wherever. We already pay a huge amount of tax on fuels. A bit more seems fair compared to road tax, but high users (lorries)
would be heavily penalised. Not really a good thing.
Not sure I support the flat rate VED coming in either, I like the idea of low emissions cars paying less. Just bought a car today, £20/yr. The other
modern car is zero VED. And 3 of our other cars are Historic. Just the MX5 is expensive. Ouch.
I think the 40yr historic class is correct. In fact, being honest, it is over generous. I was fully expecting heavy restrictions on usage to come
along, but so far nothing has happened. Again, that would be fair, historic vehicles being free but limited mileage or use only for shows or whatever.
And if you want to use it every day, pay like you would on a modern car. I don't see increasing the number of historic vehicles being a real
votewinner, and was surprised when it reappeared. However, I gather the Tories like their old cars!
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mark chandler
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| posted on 26/1/16 at 07:18 PM |
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My recollection is 25 years was to be rolling originally, they quickly froze it, the car crushing of a few years mitigated the risk of allowing 40
years and beyond qualifying going forwards, they will never bring back 25 years.
Flat rate VED, not heard of that but as new cars have been fiddling emmisions it is not surprising, so I guess the next thing will be based on cubic
capacity to force people into smaller cars although a flat VED helps people with big audi's, BMW's Merc's etc so the people that can
probally afford this when new anyway.
My trusty Volvo is I think £280 a year for an 06 car, flat rate will bounce that up I,m sure 
[Edited on 26/1/16 by mark chandler]
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morcus
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| posted on 26/1/16 at 08:04 PM |
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Flat rate starts next year for new cars, though its technically not a flat rate as the first year is based on emissions and for the first 5 years cars
that cost more than £40K new have premium and personally I think its a much fairer system (Especially in a world were cars have test figures
completely detached from reality).
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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chillis
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| posted on 26/1/16 at 10:14 PM |
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The 40 yr historic tax class is set to co-inside with the restrictions of use for historic vehicles which essentially may prevent their use as
everyday transport.
As for flat rate VED, if all electric super cars are to be penalised tax wise, then the whole idea of tax incentives for low and zero emission
vehicles has been undermined Therefore I believe passengers car should all pay the same. The EU already has the satellites in place for road access
charging which was supposed to be a charge per mile based on vehicle size/weight carrying, route, emissions, and time of journey. This was meant to
replace the VED but has been put on hold due to the implications of fitting so many vehicles in the EU with the necessary tracking equipment and the
fact that some countries were unhappy that HGV's would be exempt.
Never under estimate the ingenuity of an idiot!
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cliftyhanger
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| posted on 27/1/16 at 07:43 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by chillis
The 40 yr historic tax class is set to co-inside with the restrictions of use for historic vehicles which essentially may prevent their use as
everyday transport.
That sounds like you have heard that restrictions ARE in the pipeline?
Care to share??
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 27/1/16 at 11:57 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by cliftyhanger
VED (it never has been car tax) has nothing to do withroads.
VED certainly is a car tax, the name is self-explanatory "Vehicle Excise Duty".
VED is no longer a "Road tax", but it did used to be. In the 1920's and 1930's VED was used to fund the building of roads, so
it was effectively a road tax. In the late 30's VED was changed to a general taxation.
[Edited on 27/1/16 by MikeRJ]
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