Richard Y
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| posted on 30/6/05 at 09:32 AM |
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zetec build guides ?
Any one know any build guides from those fitting zetec lumps into 7 style cars i can have a gander at
i can get umm cheap and local i dont wanna completly rule out dropping a zetec lump in there as appossed to an old 2.0 pinto theres gunna be definate
benifits
anyone know from experiance if its much harder with regards to the loom fitting ? or any other problems incured going for an injection and ecu based
engine in particular the 2.0 zetec ?
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Mix
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| posted on 30/6/05 at 09:43 AM |
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It's not so much an issue of difficulty as increased cost 
My installation will end up using the following 'extra' parts, (these are just the major items)
1800 flywheel
1800 clutch
Modified release bearing
Escort water pump
After market Throttle bodies
After market ECU
New inlet manifold
Exhast manifold
Escort sump
I hope to get the engine sorted for about £2000
Mick
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stevebubs
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| posted on 30/6/05 at 10:04 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mix
It's not so much an issue of difficulty as increased cost
My installation will end up using the following 'extra' parts, (these are just the major items)
1800 flywheel
1800 clutch
Modified release bearing
Escort water pump
After market Throttle bodies
After market ECU
New inlet manifold
Exhast manifold
Escort sump
I hope to get the engine sorted for about £2000
Mick
I'd say I could repeat my engine install for less than £1200 including buying the engine.
A reasonable budget would probably include:
Engine £50-£400
1.8 lightened Flywheel+Clutch+spigot bearing £250
TBs+Inlet Manifold, Filters etc £350
ECU+Wiring £250-£600 (Megasquirt vs Emerald etc)
Exhaust £200
Misc £150 - pipes, fuel pumps, etc
Note that this will imply a good deal of fabication on behalf of the builder.
[Edited on 30/6/05 by stevebubs]
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Mix
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| posted on 30/6/05 at 10:28 AM |
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Steve
How do you manage the throttle bodies etc for £350?
Mick
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Danozeman
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| posted on 30/6/05 at 10:33 AM |
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Im using a 1.8 zetec. Its cost me not much at all so far really.
Engine 60 quid
130 cams 20 quid
Bike carbs 8 quid
Basic ign 30 quid
bits i need
exhaust 350 approx which u will need for any engine.
Escort sump 20 or chopped one 100 quid.
IMO the worst bit is the inlet manifold.
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk
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Markp
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| posted on 30/6/05 at 06:29 PM |
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Don't forget the water rail £158 and starter motor £?
I've just bought a 2l black top and it'll probably cost £1500 - £2000
Just a thought
Mark
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Richard Y
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| posted on 30/6/05 at 07:58 PM |
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lol i didnt know it was so much!!!!! puts it well in perspective that does the old pintos looking better lol
so how much do you have to change ? cant you run std water pumps and std inginition and std inlet manifold and an air filter ?
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Markp
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| posted on 30/6/05 at 10:26 PM |
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although a lot of people say you have to change the water pump, and this might be the case on the silver top, on the black top zetec you can run the
standard pump with no effect caused. (wait for someone to say otherwise )
As regard to the standard inlet manifold.......Have you seen the size of it??? if anyone can fit it in then it would be a great sight to see.
Other opinions welcome
cheers Mark
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Monkeybasher
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| posted on 1/7/05 at 10:01 AM |
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Why does the water pump get changed. I'm worried now, I've done 1,500 miles with the zetec pump no problems, 2.0l zetec silver top.
I've got the lightened flywheel from tiger this allows you to use the pinto clutch, its a bit cheaper.
Cheers
Steve
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ChrisW
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| posted on 1/7/05 at 11:29 AM |
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Use the Fiesta/Escort inlet manifold with the 2.0 throttle body on it, or a set of GSXR throttle bodies (£75-ish off ebay), or a pair of 40's of
course (£200-ish)
Easiest way to do the electronics is with an Escort ESC2 unit (£10 from a scrapper) but obviously this only works on carbs. Megasquirt ECU you are
looking at £150 by the time you've done it all.
Other than that it's all Escort bits from the scrap yard - hardy difficult to come by! really don't get why people think the Zetec will
cost money. It will be more than a Pinto, but I would expect a £500 budget for the engine and the bits to make it work would give a reasonable
package.
Chris
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 1/7/05 at 11:58 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Monkeybasher
Why does the water pump get changed. I'm worried now, I've done 1,500 miles with the zetec pump no problems, 2.0l zetec silver
top.
It depends on what car the engine came from! The Escort engines have the correct water pump, the Mondeo ones have a water pump that turns in the
opposite direction, and keeping the mondeo belt drive setup is impractical on a Locost. So a man at the pub told me...
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stevebubs
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| posted on 1/7/05 at 05:43 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Markp
Don't forget the water rail £158 and starter motor £?
I've just bought a 2l black top and it'll probably cost £1500 - £2000
Just a thought
Mark
Water Rail is not a must-have
Starter - 1.8 CVH Sierra. Mine was a fiver
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stevebubs
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| posted on 1/7/05 at 05:45 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Monkeybasher
Why does the water pump get changed. I'm worried now, I've done 1,500 miles with the zetec pump no problems, 2.0l zetec silver top.
I've got the lightened flywheel from tiger this allows you to use the pinto clutch, its a bit cheaper.
Cheers
Steve
Waterpump on 2.0 silvertop is run off the back of the auxiliary belt. If you're running in this configuration then you're fine.
If you want to run it off the ribbed side then you need the impellor / pump from a 1.8.
Basically if the pump has a smooth pulley then it needs to be run off the back of the belt. If it's ribbed then it's run off the ribber
side.
hth
S
[Edited on 1/7/05 by stevebubs]
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stevebubs
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| posted on 1/7/05 at 05:50 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mix
Steve
How do you manage the throttle bodies etc for £350?
Mick
GSXR750 THrottlebodes £100
DCOE Manifold £150
Fuel Rail £60
Injectors £5
Trumpets £35
Filters £50
OK.. £400
Can be done for less if you don't change the spacing or the injectors and can get a custom manifold cheaply (or make it yourself)
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