RichieC
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| posted on 28/10/05 at 08:53 PM |
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Peugeot Wheels on Sierra Hubs
Hi all,
I am looking into using a set of 206 GTi wheels which Ill just about get for nothing and was wondering what modification would be required to fit
them.
As far as I can tell, the PCD is the same but there are the following differences:
206 Offset: 25 ??
Sierra : 32
206: 65
Ford: 63
So I assume from these dimensions, the Peugeot wheels would have a wider track (surely this wouldnt interfere with the arches if I didnt go too wide a
tyre) and the bore is 2mm wider.
I guess this isnt great as the hub wouldnt be able to offer much support but i suppose this is no different to using a spacer on alloy wheels.
Thanks for any advice, I reckon theyd not only look good when refurbed, but the price is definately right 
Rgds
Rich
[Edited on 28/10/05 by RichieC]
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Hellfire
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| posted on 28/10/05 at 08:55 PM |
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AFAIK - Sierra offset is 32~35.
Hey - you can't go editing the original question. Makes my answer look stupid now  
[Edited on 28-10-05 by Hellfire]
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RichieC
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| posted on 28/10/05 at 08:59 PM |
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Opps yeh, thanks for that edited.
I thought the Pug had a wider offset ie a higher number or have I got that the wrong way around?
Thanks
Rich
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big_wasa
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| posted on 28/10/05 at 08:59 PM |
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The wifes escort has a set of citeron rims on at the min as I picked 4 with 4 new tyres for £50...They wouldnt go over the calipers on my 406
Main thing is the spigot ring in the center of the rim is a touch bigger so all the load and all the centering is carried by the studs...Ive had no
probs at all ,But she never does more than 50mph
As for track...Depends on what axle your using ? Live axles ie mk2 escort ect had less ofset any way 18-19 mm springs to mind
[Edited on 28/10/05 by big_wasa]
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RichieC
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| posted on 28/10/05 at 09:04 PM |
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I can appreciate its not best practise to have the weight being carried on the studs.
Is there any way round this short of having a sleeve manufactured?
Track wise, I thought the higher the number the wider the track? Ill be using Sierra bits at the back but depending on how much spare space there is
under the arches, I cant see these wheels with say a 185 tyre on touching the arch.
Thanks
R
[Edited on 28/10/05 by RichieC]
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Peteff
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| posted on 28/10/05 at 09:08 PM |
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You can buy spigot rings to make up the difference.
some on ebay
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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RichieC
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| posted on 28/10/05 at 09:11 PM |
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Just had another thought (dangerous), what about using a spacer with the correct centre bore. I know this will make the offset even wider but
providing the spacer isnt too wide, this would cure the centering issue.
Thanks
Rich
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RichieC
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| posted on 28/10/05 at 09:12 PM |
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Thanks Pete, I reckon they should cure it without adding to offset - even better.
Rgds
Rich
[Edited on 28/10/05 by RichieC]
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 29/10/05 at 08:56 AM |
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Unfortunately, the spiggot rings are made to convert aftermarket alloys (centre bore about 70mm) to either Peugeot of Ford, not to convert Peugeot to
Ford. Already been down this route.
What you would need is a bit of tube 65.5mm OD with 0.75mm wall thickness. Cut to length, freeze them, heat up the Peugeot alloys and drive home!Could
be done with a lathe I suppose, I would buy a set of 4 if someone got to make any.
[Edited on 29/10/05 by Mark Allanson]
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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RichieC
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| posted on 29/10/05 at 09:15 AM |
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What about having the Peugeot alloys milled out to the 70mm or so of an aftermarket alloy and fitting the spigots as though they were aftermarket?
Rgds
Richie
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Messenjah
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| posted on 29/10/05 at 09:38 AM |
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what about just buying ford alloys
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RichieC
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| posted on 29/10/05 at 11:07 AM |
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Cos these are a) in my garage already and b) free
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 29/10/05 at 12:16 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RichieC
What about having the Peugeot alloys milled out to the 70mm or so of an aftermarket alloy and fitting the spigots as though they were aftermarket?
Rgds
Richie
You would need a lathe with a very large throw, and you would have to clock the wheels in VERY carefully to get dead square
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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NS Dev
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| posted on 29/10/05 at 11:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mark Allanson
Unfortunately, the spiggot rings are made to convert aftermarket alloys (centre bore about 70mm) to either Peugeot of Ford, not to convert Peugeot to
Ford. Already been down this route.
What you would need is a bit of tube 65.5mm OD with 0.75mm wall thickness. Cut to length, freeze them, heat up the Peugeot alloys and drive home!Could
be done with a lathe I suppose, I would buy a set of 4 if someone got to make any.
[Edited on 29/10/05 by Mark Allanson]
Will be machining some at some point in the next couple of months to fit my Pug 1.9 gti alloys to ford hubs, i'll make another 4 while I'm
at it then!
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Rorty
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| posted on 30/10/05 at 03:11 AM |
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I have made spigot adapters from acetal which were really easy to turn and worked well.
If you're ever buying plastic spigot adaptors make sure they're not made from Nylon. I made that mistake once and when they got wet and
swelled up, they stuck to the hub and when I pulled a wheel off, I broke the Nylon ring. 
Cheers, Rorty.
"Faster than a speeding Pullet".
PLEASE DON'T U2U ME IF YOU WANT A QUICK RESPONSE. TRY EMAILING ME INSTEAD!
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RichieC
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| posted on 30/10/05 at 06:35 AM |
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Will be machining some at some point in the next couple of months to fit my Pug 1.9 gti alloys to ford hubs, i'll make another 4 while I'm
at it then!
Yeh put me down for a set mate, Im sure you would move a good few sets as there seems to be a few like minded souls.
Rgds
Rich
[Edited on 30/10/05 by RichieC]
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 31/10/05 at 11:03 PM |
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Yup, I would be in for a set
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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NS Dev
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| posted on 1/11/05 at 12:15 AM |
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reet, I'll see if I can cadge some suitable "scrap" tube at work tomorrow and have a look at the jobbie!
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 1/11/05 at 08:11 AM |
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My measurements are just guesses at the expansion/contraction. May be better to go for an interference fit.
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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NS Dev
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| posted on 1/11/05 at 08:24 AM |
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will do Mark don't worry, I think the .5mm will be touch too much but Iwill make them to suit the wheels, taking into account the fact that you
can't drive a 1mm wall piece of tube very hard without damaging it! A very light interference fit and loctite is probably best
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NS Dev
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| posted on 1/11/05 at 03:50 PM |
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some suitable tube should "become available" next week with a bit of luck as long as we reach the production run and this week.
Will be nice tool steel too!
[Edited on 1/11/05 by NS Dev]
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RichieC
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| posted on 1/11/05 at 11:41 PM |
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Good stuff, keep us posted with cost and time scale
Rgds
Richie
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RichieC
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| posted on 12/11/05 at 12:50 PM |
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Any update on the sleeves matey?
Rgds
Richie
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NS Dev
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| posted on 14/11/05 at 01:10 AM |
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Will have the tube tomorrow morning (monday) so will try and get some turned as soon as my clutch release spacer has vacated the lathe chuck!!
(Tues/Wed)
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NS Dev
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| posted on 15/11/05 at 12:46 AM |
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got this done tonight so will try and do some spacers tomorrow nite.
 
cr1
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