907
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| posted on 26/1/06 at 09:52 PM |
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GYS Tig. Any good?
Hi All,
I took my tig set over to a mates garage and did some welding on his chassis.
He watched with interest so I let him have a go on a bit of scrap.
After 50 mm of weld he exclaimed, "I WANT ONE"
So I've been looking around for something in his price range when I came across
a 160amp Tig / Arc Inverter with HF, Slope up, Slope down, and adj post flow.
Duty cycle of 40% @ 150.
It's made by (or for) GYS, and I wondered if anyone on here has one, used one,
or has any experience of any of their other kit.
It's £484.99, and if it's any good, that's locost!
Cheers
Paul G
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JoelP
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| posted on 26/1/06 at 10:02 PM |
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i was tempted by that very model. Only downside is no ac/dc, and im not yet sure if i want to do ally. Good price though, is that at the welders
warehouse?
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907
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| posted on 26/1/06 at 10:24 PM |
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Hi Joel,
I found it on Weld UK.
They do a 180 ac / dc but that's £989.98
That's a bit much for my mate, but I wouldn't mind it myself.
Just the job for my nose cone.
At the moment the plan is to borrow a set of bottles.
Paul G
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JoelP
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| posted on 26/1/06 at 10:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 907
At the moment the plan is to borrow a set of bottles.
Paul G
you mean do it pissed 
how similar is gas to tig? the idea seems harder, but ive never done either.
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caber
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| posted on 26/1/06 at 10:59 PM |
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Air products do bottles with built in regulators at same price as standard bottles. They also do daily rental so you can take it back and get charged
for only the days you had the bottle, cheap for those who don't weld regularly!
caber
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907
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| posted on 26/1/06 at 11:07 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
quote:
Originally posted by 907
At the moment the plan is to borrow a set of bottles.
Paul G
you mean do it pissed
how similar is gas to tig? the idea seems harder, but ive never done either.
The technique is similar, heat in one hand, rod in the other.
Tig is more instant, more local, less distortion, no messing with flux.
Gas will soften the weld area more so less cracking, and you can dress
the weld and put it through the wheeling machine and it will disappear. (ish)
Trev uses gas, so that says it all.
O, and the getting pissed comes when you've finished.
Paul G
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907
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| posted on 26/1/06 at 11:16 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by caber
Air products do bottles with built in regulators at same price as standard bottles. They also do daily rental so you can take it back and get charged
for only the days you had the bottle, cheap for those who don't weld regularly!
caber
That's a good point Caber, I didn't know that.
No good for me though. It'll take me weeks to do the nose.
Big pile of scrap ones, and one on the car. 
Don't forget, I've never done this before.
Paul G
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NS Dev
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| posted on 27/1/06 at 12:16 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 907
Hi All,
I took my tig set over to a mates garage and did some welding on his chassis.
He watched with interest so I let him have a go on a bit of scrap.
After 50 mm of weld he exclaimed, "I WANT ONE"
So I've been looking around for something in his price range when I came across
a 160amp Tig / Arc Inverter with HF, Slope up, Slope down, and adj post flow.
Duty cycle of 40% @ 150.
It's made by (or for) GYS, and I wondered if anyone on here has one, used one,
or has any experience of any of their other kit.
It's £484.99, and if it's any good, that's locost!
Cheers
Paul G
These were all welded with that very TIG in my mate's garage:
.........................so yep, seems to work ok!
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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907
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| posted on 27/1/06 at 12:27 AM |
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Fookin Hell
So it electro polishes as well !
Seriously though, has he had it long? No probs with it?
Paul G
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Peteff
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| posted on 27/1/06 at 12:50 AM |
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I found it on Weld UK.
He's only about 10 miles from here in Pinxton. I had a regulator from him years ago before he went on the net.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 27/1/06 at 12:53 AM |
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heh heh!!
they were only really given a quick buff up, and a pickle where the buffer won't go, but they were made from flipping pricey mirror polish
sheet, but he prefers to use that for everything!
He's had the machine for around a year and a half so far, and not a murmur from it to date.
I have used it a few times, but I am a TIG numpty, so my results don't look quite like his!! Certainly seems easy to use though, and
doesn't actually "feel" like a cheap machine in use.
As nothing has broken, that's the only reliability comment I can make really. Great service apparently from the welder's warehouse where
he got it from as well apparently.
Was going to get one myself, still probably will at some point, but I'm short of cash and he can do any tig work that I need doing!
cheers
Nat
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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timf
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| posted on 27/1/06 at 08:54 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 907
Hi All,
I took my tig set over to a mates garage and did some welding on his chassis.
He watched with interest so I let him have a go on a bit of scrap.
After 50 mm of weld he exclaimed, "I WANT ONE"
So I've been looking around for something in his price range when I came across
a 160amp Tig / Arc Inverter with HF, Slope up, Slope down, and adj post flow.
Duty cycle of 40% @ 150.
It's made by (or for) GYS, and I wondered if anyone on here has one, used one,
or has any experience of any of their other kit.
It's £484.99, and if it's any good, that's locost!
Cheers
Paul G
thats the one i've got paul
will even weld 12mm on full power but will trip the thermal overload safety after 5 mins welding  but by that time the torch gets a bit hot to hold
anyway
[Edited on 27/1/06 by timf]
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Wadders
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| posted on 28/1/06 at 05:05 PM |
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This is a good forum for all things welding related, IIRC there was a recent post about GYS tig sets, might be relevent.
http://www.ukwelder.com/forum//index.php?s=be61998bcd1d898f0a5e41cbd9fb550a&act=idx
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Custom Solutions
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| posted on 28/1/06 at 05:53 PM |
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Er yes, that's me that made the shiney bits.
The GYS TIG is probably the best bit of kit I have ever bought.
Although cheap it has the features of the more expensive models sold by other companies.
The only material thickness I can comment on is 0.8mm to 1.6mm it welds this stuff absolutley beautifully, and I hate to say it cos as soon as I do
something will go wrong, but it has been absolutely faultless to use in the 2 years I've been using this tiny little machine.
Downside is TIG welding thin mild steel.
If you don't get it right first time the steel tends to froth up when going over it again, with stainless this doesn't happen.
So with TIG welding on mild steel as many may already know, you really want to get your seams right first time around, but on saying that these
machines are so nice to use you can usually get it good first time, I'm also used to doing fluid tight welds too.
Welders warehouse are absolutely excellent for advice (most are ex sheet metal workers) service is spot on too. Prices are pretty unbeatable, most
other places will sell the torch as an extra at approx £100
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907
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| posted on 28/1/06 at 06:49 PM |
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Hi Chaps,
Thanks for all the replies. It seems that for the money it's top notch.
I use a Sure Weld 165. Had it 4 years now and it never misses a beat, but it's more dosh.
Wadders. I couldn't find a thread on GYS, but I did find the one on Butters; a bloke sold 7,
nearly all came back under warranty, some more than once. Mmmm!
Hi Tim. Hows the road to recovery. I'll have to get your books back to you.
I'm not going to ask what bit of your car is 12 mm thick.
Some nice little trinkets there C/S. I'm impressed.
I take your point on the thicknesses you weld. That's the way it should be.
If you want to cruse at 80 on the motorway, you buy a car that does 130.
NS Dev. Must be nice to have a mate like C/S
ATB everyone, and if anyone knows of anything relevant, post away.
Thanks, Paul G
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RPS
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| posted on 29/1/06 at 03:24 PM |
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Hi Paul,
My TIG is a GYS 130HF (which you came over to help me set up last year). It has been a great welder except for the fact that, within the last week
of warrenty, it stopped working on normal arc welding.
However, The Welders Warehouse repaired it quickly and efficiently and with no quibble over the fact that it was right at the end of its warrenty
period. They were also very good on general advice when I first bought it.
Regards,
Richard
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JoelP
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| posted on 29/1/06 at 05:24 PM |
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might be worth looking into a group buy, id be up for one.
but id still like ac/dc
[Edited on 29/1/06 by JoelP]
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James
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| posted on 9/2/06 at 02:59 PM |
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I've been told that the guys at work much prefer their old large TIG welders than the new inverters in the new factory.
Whether that means anything other than they're sentimentalold buggers I don't know!
As a result though, I was thinking about trying to buy a 2nd hand old skool type instead of an inverter.
Cheers,
James
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JoelP
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| posted on 9/2/06 at 08:57 PM |
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i didnt think the gys160 was an inverter tig. You see ones labelled as inverters going a hell of a lot cheaper than that.
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907
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| posted on 9/2/06 at 08:59 PM |
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Absolutely James
A nice 3 phase Murex or Lincon sitting in the corner of the garage....
As the saying goes, "Happy as a pig in ****"
Paul G
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Peteff
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| posted on 10/2/06 at 12:36 AM |
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i didnt think the gys160 was an inverter tig.
If you can pick it up and carry it it's an inverter. You can pick small ones up for under £200 with no tig gear.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 10/2/06 at 08:50 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
i didnt think the gys160 was an inverter tig. You see ones labelled as inverters going a hell of a lot cheaper than that.
Yes it is an inverter, and no you won't find anything comparable cheaper, I have looked for bloody ages!!!!
The reason there are cheaper ones is that "an invertor" is not "an invertor" there are many additional features needed and the
gys has them.
Basic invertor is a nice smooth and very compact stick welder and nothing else.
For 1/2 decent tig welding you need HF start, slope up and down and post-gas, as a minimum. None of the cheapo invertors have these.
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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907
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| posted on 13/2/06 at 11:34 PM |
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A bloke asked me if I would help him with his new welder.
He wants to build model boats in aluminium. Mmmm.
I went over his tonight. WOW
He's bought a Lincoln 205T ac/dc Tig inverter. £2k +
A wonderful bit of kit, and I WANT ONE
Green with envy
Paul G
As a post script to this thread, my mate Gerry, who this thread is all about,
has just took delivery of a GYS tig welder.
Apparently I'm now a member of the W.I. (that's welding instructors)
Many thanks to everyone.
[Edited on 14/2/06 by 907]
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lexi
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| posted on 15/2/06 at 12:57 AM |
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What kind of acid do you pickle stainless in? Does it clean up the welds etc?
Alex
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GYSFR
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| posted on 20/5/13 at 12:32 PM |
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We value comments and threads regarding GYS made on this forum and we would like to thank those of you who have taken the time to post on our company
here. As a manufacturer, we respect the role of forums and will only comment on subjects where we feel we can add particular value to the discussion.
As there have been a number of comments on the origin of GYS machines we would like to post some factual information on our industrial group which we
hope is helpful.
GYS is a French family-owned industrial group created in 1964 in the city of Laval (280 Km west of Paris). GYS engineers, designs and sells three
families of products: arc welding equipment, car body repair equipment and automotive battery service equipment. As of 2013, the group has 500
employees in five countries (France, Germany, UK India & China) and sells its products in more than 100 countries. Arc welding equipment are
manufactured in the group French factory in Laval. In 2013, the French factory will be over 23 000 m2 and will be able to produce more than 1500
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