RazMan
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| posted on 21/3/06 at 06:46 PM |
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It's Battery Time
I'll be shelling out on a suitable battery soon so I'm looking at my options. My middy is a 2.5 litre V6 Duratec with very little current
load other than an aftermarket ECU with fuel injection. All lights are LED jobbies so quite a saving there. Size is not a problem as it will be
mounted behind the passenger seat in a custom made box.
So do I go for a conventional lead acid battery or a more specialised one like the DMS red top?
Any ideas and suggestions are welcome
Cheers,
Raz
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RazMan
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| posted on 21/3/06 at 10:34 PM |
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After a bit of searching I have come up with Varley, Optima & Odyssey - all racing batteries so very light but capable (at least on paper)
Is it worth paying £100+ or should I go with a £50 conventional battery?
Any views?
Cheers,
Raz
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stevebubs
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| posted on 21/3/06 at 10:44 PM |
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Depends on whether the weight loss is worth the £50+ quid you're spending on the redtop or whatever...
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ned
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| posted on 21/3/06 at 10:47 PM |
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i only paid about £70 for my odyssey battery - inc delivered. if you're gonna spend £50 on a normal battery then there's no contest imho.
its a pc625 or something, i did post about it recently i'm sure and there's a pic in my archive under build march 06 folder.
cheers,
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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RazMan
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| posted on 21/3/06 at 11:07 PM |
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Steve, any weight saved is offset by my 17 stones anyway 
Ned, I remember seeing Odessey at Stoneleigh last year and I was suprised that such a small battery would turn my V6 over - my motorbike battery was
bigger! Their PS680 is £89.95 and the PS925 is £124.95. Did you get yours direct or through a distributor?
*edit* Just found the thread here - it was Powervamp. Their site doesn't
list any car type batteries so maybe I need to give them a ring tomorrow. 
[Edited on 21-3-06 by RazMan]
Cheers,
Raz
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RazMan
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| posted on 22/3/06 at 10:25 AM |
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**Update**
I just placed an order with Powervamp.
The battery I ordered is the Odyssey PC680 - price was an amazing £65.85 delivered! That is a saving of over £30 when compared to other stockists!!
Thanks for the tip Ned - I would buy you a beer but it's too early
[Edited on 22-3-06 by RazMan]
Cheers,
Raz
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RazMan
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| posted on 23/3/06 at 04:42 PM |
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Ordered yesterday and delivered this morning - that's what I call service
I have just got to come to terms with the fact that this ickle thing is going to start my V6. It is so small I can hold it in one hand!
 
Rescued attachment Odyssey Battery.jpg
Cheers,
Raz
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ned
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| posted on 23/3/06 at 05:33 PM |
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cool init
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EViS
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| posted on 23/3/06 at 11:58 PM |
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That's WAY too small . Does it have the same capacity as all the generic halfords batteries?
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RazMan
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| posted on 24/3/06 at 08:48 AM |
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The PC680, as the name suggests, has a cranking current of 680 Amps which is higher than most conventional batteries several times the size. As I
understand it, only the Ampere/hour capacity is less (18) which basically means that you might run flat a little quicker if you leave the headlights
on after switching the engine off - but normal use is unaffected.
As a guide, Ultima fit a smaller battery than mine to power their 5 litre Chevvy V8! 
Cheers,
Raz
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chrsgrain
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| posted on 24/3/06 at 07:15 PM |
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Looks f***ing cool!
How big is it, the battery that is... can you measure it for me?
Thanks.
Chris
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RazMan
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| posted on 24/3/06 at 10:29 PM |
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Full spec here
Cheers,
Raz
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chrsgrain
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| posted on 25/3/06 at 11:54 AM |
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Most excellent - thank you ....
I'll be adding one of those to the 'need to get' list.... will make much more space on the battery shelf!
Chris
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Krismc
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| posted on 25/3/06 at 05:01 PM |
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so ill be able to have one of them in my vortx to power my Zetec???
well if so ill order one, i was looking at getting a red top but they are too expensive, so its a PC680 and do you have there number cause that page
is impossible to read its so small!
[Edited on 25/3/06 by Krismc]
Built, Ivaed, Drove and now Sold - 2011 MNR VORTX RT+ 2000cc Zetec on R1 Throttle boddies.
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RazMan
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| posted on 25/3/06 at 06:49 PM |
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You won't need a battery as big as the PS680 for a Zetec - go for the PS525 which is smaller, lighter and cheaper
The details for contacts are in the links above or the thread here
Cheers,
Raz
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ned
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| posted on 25/3/06 at 07:52 PM |
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here is my pc625, hope pic gives some idea of scale...
 
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Krismc
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| posted on 26/3/06 at 09:18 AM |
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cheers RazMan
and ned....shouldnt that be in your car or is that a security device
Built, Ivaed, Drove and now Sold - 2011 MNR VORTX RT+ 2000cc Zetec on R1 Throttle boddies.
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chockymonster
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| posted on 26/3/06 at 09:40 AM |
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Which one should I be looking at for an R1 bec?
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JoaoCaldeira
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| posted on 28/3/06 at 07:08 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by chockymonster
Which one should I be looking at for an R1 bec?
The original R1 one (that also fits R6 and DragStar 650).
If pre 2004 it's a 12 Ah one, with 200 - 230 cracking amp.
If post 2004 (inc) its a 10 Ah with +/ 200 cracking amp.
It's way lighter than the Odyssey ones (about half)
As I have a 2003 R1, I'l use the original one, but If I feel that's not enough I'll take the 12 Ah one - the one with 14 in place
of 12 in the model)
Joao Caldeira
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Hellfire
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| posted on 28/3/06 at 04:32 PM |
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We used original ZX12R battery - extra load is pretty much insignificant. When will I have the hazard lights on?
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Hellfire
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| posted on 28/3/06 at 04:33 PM |
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We used original ZX12R battery - extra load is pretty much insignificant. When will I have the hazard lights on?
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RazMan
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| posted on 28/3/06 at 06:08 PM |
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Normally you wouldn't need to use a bigger battery in a BEC. The only extra load will be the extra lights (two of everything) and the alternator
should handle this without too much trouble. You certainly dont need extra cranking power so just stick with the standard battery.
The only advantage would be that you can run the hazards for longer if you break down ...... but you built your car well and you won't break
down ...... will you
Cheers,
Raz
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