imp paul
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| posted on 18/2/07 at 06:13 PM |
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zx12r imp
work so far the engine is in .click my picys to have a look hope you like it. its been hard work but thanks to paul at spire sports cars for all the
help
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nitram38
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| posted on 18/2/07 at 06:16 PM |
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Nice !
I used to race these in the Post Historics in 1993!
Should be scaryingly quick and handle like a go-kart !
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DIY Si
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| posted on 18/2/07 at 06:16 PM |
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That should be good fun when it's done! 
What made you decide to turn the engine round, and not have it as it is in the bike?
“Let your plans be dark and as impenetratable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
Sun Tzu, The Art of War
My new blog: http://spritecave.blogspot.co.uk/
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imp paul
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| posted on 18/2/07 at 06:25 PM |
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engine
imp engines live in the back the same way as i have the bike engine. also want to keep things looking like it should so it all looks the norm lol
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[Edited on 18/2/07 by imp paul]
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DIY Si
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| posted on 18/2/07 at 06:36 PM |
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Ah, I knew there'd be a sensible reason!
“Let your plans be dark and as impenetratable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
Sun Tzu, The Art of War
My new blog: http://spritecave.blogspot.co.uk/
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arrybradbury
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| posted on 18/2/07 at 06:41 PM |
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I think the cage gives it away  But looking awesome
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Hellfire
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| posted on 18/2/07 at 07:42 PM |
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Hey Paul,
With the engine in and stuff - how much room did you eventually have left? 
ATB Steve
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SeaBass
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| posted on 18/2/07 at 07:50 PM |
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How does that drive layout work then??
Is it a chain across to a diff nose??
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imp paul
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| posted on 18/2/07 at 07:53 PM |
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room no room
hi steve i had no room left in the back had to do some rear panel chopping nightmare fom hell as for drive lay out click my picys and you will
see
[Edited on 18/2/07 by imp paul]
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 19/2/07 at 08:08 AM |
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is it going to wheelie
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G.Man
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| posted on 19/2/07 at 09:32 AM |
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PICS
Save everyone searching..
I like the drive layout, bit worried about the gearbox without cush drive on the diff tho...
The engine mounts don't look too solid to me, but I will stand corrected... I have seen 250cc karts break sturdier looking mounts than those!
No dry sump? Gonna accusump? Whats the plan?
Personally I would have gone mid engined rather than rear, but its your project not mine..
Opinions are like backsides..
Everyone has one, nobody wants to hear it and only other peoples stink!
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imp paul
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| posted on 19/2/07 at 05:54 PM |
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the frame is only tacked at the moment. it will be more sturdy when its seamed .as for the sump going to have the same sump as in the gtr kit car
baffled and modded pickup . also the gtr kit car at spire sports cars has no cush drive in the prop. and has done track day after track day and 8000
miles so no worries there then hope this helps a bit more o and thanks for the interrest hope you like it as much as i do but then im mad lol
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G.Man
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| posted on 19/2/07 at 07:13 PM |
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8000 miles is nothing for a gearbox, just be prepared to replace a lot of expensive parts if it does break..
Kawasaki boxes are not amongst the best, and you wont know how much damage has been done to the box dogs until they fall off..
I doubt i will like it as much as you, as I would have used chain drive onto a reversing diff for adjustable ratios, better weight balance etc
etc...
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 19/2/07 at 07:52 PM |
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wouldnt making a mid engined one include a lot more work etc etc etc
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 19/2/07 at 07:55 PM |
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G man 8000 miles is a lot of miles hell of probably sold it by then
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imp paul
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| posted on 19/2/07 at 09:29 PM |
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g man imps handle like go carts so why would i want to mid mount it and make it all wrong .so that's why its meant to be in the back also
that's the hole point so it still looks like a imp
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G.Man
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| posted on 19/2/07 at 10:10 PM |
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Actually they handle NOTHING like Karts..
As I have raced 250 Karts and driven fast imps I know the difference.. A kart corners on 2 front wheels and one rear wheel, an Imp, quite the opposite
I see your point about wanting it to look like an imp, but you said you hope I would like it as much as you, which I wouldnt in that configuration..
Merely my preference...
PS a Go-Kart is a wooden plank with pram wheels at either end..
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imp paul
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| posted on 19/2/07 at 10:33 PM |
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every 1 to there own
and what engine did this fast imp have ? eg Hartwell or greetham 998 or 1120 and i have had imps from being 17 years old to 35 and it all depends how
much Penny's you put in to it as anything but if you don't like them that's fine no problem
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 19/2/07 at 10:44 PM |
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G man the blokes doing something different
you sound like your being a right smart ass
everyone knows how good hillman imps can handle
it is a phrase "handles like a go kart"
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G.Man
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| posted on 20/2/07 at 06:18 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by zxrlocost
G man the blokes doing something different
you sound like your being a right smart ass
everyone knows how good hillman imps can handle
it is a phrase "handles like a go kart"
same to you too, i am entitled to an opinion and I do like imps...
I also offered constructive advice on an area of expertise... thanks for noticing
[Edited on 20/2/07 by G.Man]
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G.Man
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| posted on 20/2/07 at 07:33 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by imp paul
and what engine did this fast imp have ? eg Hartwell or greetham 998 or 1120 and i have had imps from being 17 years old to 35 and it all depends how
much Penny's you put in to it as anything but if you don't like them that's fine no problem
I do not know what engines they had, probably did at the time, but we are talking 1982 here
Of course they handle pretty good for a rear engined car, and I have no problem with it rear engined, its your project not mine, I merely said that
mid engined would have been my preference, dry sump would be my preference (like i dry sumped mine) and cush drive to protect gearbox dogs.
Anyway, good luck with the project and let us know how it goes (like stink I should imagine)
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G.Man
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| posted on 20/2/07 at 07:42 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
Oh goody an opportunity for a video
Graeme Wight Junior at Doune in an Imp. This is a car engine.
GWJ at Doune
I am sure I have seen that one at a hillclimb, doesnt it rev to summat stupid like 10k?
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imp paul
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 posted on 20/2/07 at 06:04 PM |
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my old engine 998 full race greetham
my old engine was a full race 998 made by greetham engineering and gives 130 bhp and revs to 10000rpm .same as grj engine and yes its mad but i want
some more power .hence zx12 engine fitted now .thanks to all of you for your thorts cheers paul o also no room for a cush drive or i would have had
one but all should be well
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G.Man
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| posted on 20/2/07 at 07:43 PM |
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If you decide later to use a cush drive, think about using some rubber bushes in an enclosed case..
It would replace the UJ and fit in the same space..
10k on the greetham, very nice, bet that sounded sweet..
Pretty much bike engine RPM, but then that CC designed engine was pretty much based on their race designs...
PS. I used to work for a Chrysler/Rootes specialist back in the 80's so became very familiar with the Imp, Chamois etc...
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imp paul
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| posted on 20/2/07 at 10:08 PM |
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cush drive
has any 1 got any pickys off a cush drive? this would help thanks paul
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