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flak monkey

posted on 20/3/07 at 12:28 PM Reply With Quote
A challenge for you...

Can someone rearrange this formula for H please?

V= pi*h((c^2)/8 + (h^2)/6)

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David





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mookaloid

posted on 20/3/07 at 12:37 PM Reply With Quote
Is it possible?





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Mr Whippy

posted on 20/3/07 at 12:44 PM Reply With Quote
What a splendid arrangement!

H = 2268chhpiV^^//+= *((()))





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nib1980

posted on 20/3/07 at 12:57 PM Reply With Quote
I think its

h = sqrt(6*((v/(pi*h))-((C^2)/8))

some one check my working please

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Sporty

posted on 20/3/07 at 01:00 PM Reply With Quote
I agreee with your working so far but I suppose it is not a lot of help with h on both sides of the equation.
Will ask around the office see if anyones maths is up to it.

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nib1980

posted on 20/3/07 at 01:02 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sporty
I agreee with your working so far but I suppose it is not a lot of help with h on both sides of the equation.
Will ask around the office see if anyones maths is up to it.



crap......

I never like thermodynamics anyway, I'll have another go

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nib1980

posted on 20/3/07 at 01:13 PM Reply With Quote
ignoring previous attempt, got it now

I think

h = sqrt (6(V/(pi^2(c^2/8)))

again check the working and laugh at me again

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Bluemoon

posted on 20/3/07 at 01:13 PM Reply With Quote
nib1980,

I think you get, h = +/- sqrt((6/v)-(6/(8*pi))*c^2)

Dan

[Edited on 20/3/07 by Bluemoon]

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nib1980

posted on 20/3/07 at 01:15 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Bluemoon
nib1980,

I think your correct, I get, h = +/- sqrt((6/v)-(6/(8*pi))*c^2)

Dan



thanks but which one so I can delte the other. before some of us get really confused ha ha

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posted on 20/3/07 at 01:19 PM Reply With Quote
it is a quadratic in h so it is 6*(-pi*(c^2)/8+/- sqrt(pi^2c^4/64 + 4V/6)
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matt_gsxr

posted on 20/3/07 at 01:19 PM Reply With Quote
Difficult to do analytically, see cubic equation in wikipedia, as methods depend a bit on the values (unlike the quadratic formula which is nice and simple).

If you have values that you can plug in then, first rearrange to

8hhh + 0 hh + 6cc h - 48V/pi = 0

then plug into the 8, 0, 6cc and -48V/pi into the solver at

http://www.akiti.ca/Quad3Deg.html

Alternatively you can battle through the wikipedia maths, but it doesn't look like fun to me.

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Bluemoon

posted on 20/3/07 at 01:28 PM Reply With Quote
Opps, I thought that was a pih/(.....).. I'll get my coat..

As pointed out it's actually a qubic equation, and I think you can only solve it using an iterative method...

Dan

But having read, bit looks like you can solve it but it's not easy!

[Edited on 20/3/07 by Bluemoon]

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flak monkey

posted on 20/3/07 at 01:50 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks guys, its not possible to rearrange it anyway according to our maths geniuses, managed to sort it out now anyway. Was trying to work out some combustion chamber volumes for one of the technicians at uni.

Thanks for the help

David





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ned

posted on 20/3/07 at 01:54 PM Reply With Quote
WHOOOOOOSH

straight over my head!





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Chippy

posted on 20/3/07 at 02:08 PM Reply With Quote
Just reading this thread has given me a head ache, think I'll go and lie down. Ray





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Confused but excited.

posted on 20/3/07 at 04:01 PM Reply With Quote
"Was trying to work out some combustion chamber volumes for one of the technicians at uni. "

Glad I've got a measuring cylinder! Being that clever is too much like hard work.





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flak monkey

posted on 20/3/07 at 04:02 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Confused but excited.
"Was trying to work out some combustion chamber volumes for one of the technicians at uni. "

Glad I've got a measuring cylinder! Being that clever is too much like hard work.


Its all theoretical at the moment. He is having some fun with a 50 cc moped engine and methanol... you'd never guess he spent years drag racing





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