Poll: What do you rev your X-Flow to ? [View Results]
upto 5,500
5,500 - 6,000
6,000 - 6,500
6,500 - 7,000
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Author: Subject: What do you rev your X-Flow to ?
Major Stare

posted on 29/5/07 at 10:27 PM Reply With Quote
What do you rev your X-Flow to ?

Never know what to rev limit my X-flow to?

I understand it varies from engine to engine.

1700 X-Flow
MegaSquirt with GBR600 injection
Head polished and ported
BCF2 Cam .387" LIFT/290deg duration





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DavidM

posted on 29/5/07 at 11:06 PM Reply With Quote
Mine is a standard 1300 crossflow. At the moment I don't take it past 5000 RPM because it's done less than 2000 miles since it was rebuilt. Maximum power is at 5750 so there is no point revving it past that once it's properly run in.

I think the BCF2 cam produces maximum power at 6000 RPM, in which case there is not a lot of point revving yours past 6000, in my opinion.

David

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Fatgadget

posted on 30/5/07 at 12:36 AM Reply With Quote
Had a 1640 with an A2 cam.Tuftrited crank and balanced with 125E conrods. Used to regularly rev it till the valves bounced Rev counter didn't work!
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Ham

posted on 30/5/07 at 06:53 AM Reply With Quote
I've got a recall function on my rev counter, at the mo it shows a max of 7400!!!!
I've got my shift light set at 5800, so by the time I change it is revving at around 6500
1660,lightened and balanced 275 deg cam twin 40's - BTW

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02GF74

posted on 30/5/07 at 07:35 AM Reply With Quote
... ooh, I posted soemthing similar a while back.

I have had mine to 7,000 ish I think


... but there is not point. You aim to rev up to around the point where you get max. power; thjat is determined by cam, engine internals, valve srpings etc.

I found that at the high revs. I took it took there was a losss of power and unpleasant nois - valve bounce I reckon - whcih acts as a very primitive rev limiter.

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David Jenkins

posted on 30/5/07 at 08:20 AM Reply With Quote
I've set my shift light to 6100, rev limiter to 6300.






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britishtrident

posted on 30/5/07 at 11:07 AM Reply With Quote
A high revs bore wear is the problem with xflos because of the (top) heavy pistons.


For competition use revving past peak power means that the revs when the next gear is selected will be higher up the torque curve.

The old Lotus TwinCam engines which had the old 1500 pre-xflo crank & rods were redlined at 6500 rpm, remove the rev limmiter and 7000 caused no sweat.
So it really depends on the cam, valve gear and how much wear you want to risk.

[Edited on 30/5/07 by britishtrident]





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ever88

posted on 31/5/07 at 01:13 PM Reply With Quote
spent a fortune on my xflow before I let it go.

my top tip if you think it's worth it was to use the older hot cams that were heavy in duration and low in lift. this way I could fit my high lift roller rocker and get the lift on such a cam and change the spec on engine with minimal efforts. for those guy's racing on track I'm sure this would be very useful as changing gear ratio's etc is a lot harder. once you have two familiar tune positions you effectively gain some performance at higher revs to make most out of a gear ratio.

my spec was to use the 1fr1 cam with standard rocker ratio of 1.52 to 1 or use a 1.69 to 1 higher rocker ratio. I did this as simply to experiment with drive ability for road use. both choices were quite severe for road use.

food for thought!

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thepest

posted on 1/6/07 at 07:21 PM Reply With Quote
Max I used to use is 9000, using a kent 264 cam.It has alot of power with that cam but not very torquey below 4500.
To get to 9000 I used fiat flat-top pistons,lightened and balanced rods,vandervell racing bearings and a high pressure high capactiy oil pump.
However it is more important to be able to use the power where you need it:
Right now I am using an A2 cam, which revs to 6500 maybe 7000 max. And I am using a quaife close ratio box to remain within the powerband.
The A2 cam is much better at lower RPMs which helps coming out of corners quicker.

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smart51

posted on 1/6/07 at 07:55 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DavidM
Maximum power is at 5750 so there is no point revving it past that


Not so. Shifting from 1st to 2nd will drop the revs from 5750 to 3500 or 4000 - a big drop in engine output. 6000 or maybe more in 1st will keep the revs up when shifting to 2nd, keeping the engine on the boil.

My engine produces peak power at 10,100 rpm. The It still pulls hard at 11500. The optimum shift point is more above peak power the bigger the gap in gear ratios.

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