mark_UK
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| posted on 7/9/03 at 10:39 AM |
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Ford V6
What`s the best donor for the Ford V6?
I was thinking of looking for a Capri 2.8 or even the heavy old 3.0 Essex lump at a push.Has any one gone this route already?Any major hassles?
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 7/9/03 at 10:50 AM |
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Friend if mine a few years ago managed to get astounding power out of an essex...
690 Bhp! mind you it was bi-turbo and supercharged he even got a spread in fast ford with it. Cost him a mint though
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blueshift
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| posted on 7/9/03 at 04:25 PM |
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mark, we're stripping a sierra ghia 4x4 at the moment with the 2.8i V6 in it, we're looking to sell the engine for a bit of project fund
money (we're going V8). Apparently it's in very good nick but the goit who sold the car to us took all the fuses and relays out and I need
to find out why the bastard fuel pump isn't running..
Let me know if you're interested.
P.S., Anyone out there know where the fuel pump relay / fuse is on a pre-87 4wd injection sierra? 
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 7/9/03 at 04:42 PM |
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inertia switch in the boot not poped/missing?or why not wire direct to the pump live
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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ChrisW
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| posted on 7/9/03 at 08:16 PM |
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I got a 2.9 V6 from a Granada in the garage. Got all the bits, injection system, ECU, loom etc but I have nicked the sump off it. Take if away for
£50?
You'll need a Capri V6 gearbox to go with it whether you have the 2.8 or 2.9 version of the Cologne.
Chris
[Edited on 7/9/03 by ChrisW]
My gaff my rules
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 7/9/03 at 08:46 PM |
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from what i have seen the 'best' V6 was the mechanical efi 2.8 one in the capri. however, capri 2.8 seem to be cherished and fetch 3x more
than any other so may not bee scrapped often! The mech efi one gave 160 hp
the other 2.8 made 150, as did the 2.9.
The 2.9 is a later design with a more reliable cam drive, and has better exhaust porting, so Id uggest you use a 2.9 if you have a choice.
I have the 2.4 baby brother of the 2.9.
atb
steve
[Edited on 7/9/03 by stephen_gusterson]
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Viper
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| posted on 7/9/03 at 09:00 PM |
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I got one of those, still in the capri.
would be prepared to out it for the right deal.
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blueshift
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| posted on 8/9/03 at 12:01 AM |
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Hurrah, make that a running 2.8i
Spent all day pissing about trying to understand the wiring and find the right relays, in the end just hotwired it with my old CB PSU (didn't
have a bit of wire long enough to reach the battery)
We can drive it around on the drive, but only within range of the mains extension
I don't know what kind of fuel injection our engine has.. it has some bosch fuel distributor (I think?) with lots of high-pressure fuel lines
coming out of it.
Yell now if you have any questions / want to see it running, as we're planning on ripping the engine out next.
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ChrisW
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| posted on 8/9/03 at 09:54 AM |
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What age is the car? Mine was on en E plate and had the mechanical system.
On my Granada engine the plenum is about 300mm x 150mm, has two air inlets on the front and says EFI on the front whereas on the mechanical version
(the one I am using) the plenum is almost square (say 200mm x 180mm), has a single inlet and throttle body on the RHS and just says Ford on it.
Pic below of the mechanical one still in the 4by. If you use that engine you'll need the Capri gearbox and a sump from a RWD car (the 2.9 sump
fits the 2.8 engine hence why there's one missing from my 'spare' engine.
Chris
My gaff my rules
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blueshift
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| posted on 8/9/03 at 03:28 PM |
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Ah, that looks exactly like ours. Ours is an E plate too.
Is that a decent engine then Chris? how much do you think we should be asking for it (given the sump and gearbox mods most people will need)?
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Viper
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| posted on 8/9/03 at 05:09 PM |
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That's the bosch K-Jetronic system as fitted to the capris. the only reason the capri had an extra 10 ponies is because it had two exhaust
systems, the XR4 had only one...
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James
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| posted on 8/9/03 at 05:30 PM |
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I'm curious as to why they bothered upping the capacity to 2.9 when it didn't add anything to the BHP. Was this a f*&k up or
deliberate for some reason?
Cheers,
James
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Viper
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| posted on 8/9/03 at 05:44 PM |
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2.9 is a different engine, don't think there are any swappable bits..
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ChrisW
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| posted on 8/9/03 at 07:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Viper
2.9 is a different engine, don't think there are any swappable bits..
I beg to differ. I have them both alongside each other in the garage. The blocks look identical, sumps changed straight over, it's just the
heads that appear to be different.
Blueshift - I was asking a ton for the engine with all the ancillaries and clutch but no one has gone for it 
Chris
My gaff my rules
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Viper
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| posted on 8/9/03 at 07:40 PM |
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chris
on your 2.9 how is the cam driven?
[Edited on 8/9/2003 by Viper]
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 8/9/03 at 10:16 PM |
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my 2.4 is like the 2.9
its got a chain
apparently the 2.8 / 2.3 series used to have problems with the 'cardboard gears' trashing.
The heads are supposed to have improved porting too.
Its interesting to see the piccky of the MFI V6 - if its E reg. My EFI 2.4 was also E reg.
Perhaps E was the changeover year?
atb
steve
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Viper
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| posted on 8/9/03 at 10:22 PM |
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The 2.9 is a stroked 2.8, it has a different crank different rods and pistons, as steve says the 2.9 cam is chain driven, the 2.8 is gear driven,
therefore the 2.9 cam runs in the opposite direction to the 2.8 needing a different dizzy, the heads have better porting on the 2.9
as i said a different beast to the 2.8
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blueshift
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| posted on 9/9/03 at 10:00 AM |
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I think if we get 50 quid for the V6 from a locost builder we'll be fairly happy. Any interest? I recorded it running last night, will make that
into an MP3 at some point.
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