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Dutchman

posted on 2/9/07 at 12:43 AM Reply With Quote
Locost in Serbia

2 years of project and last 4days with few of my friends completed everithing , 5 days ago I had chassis on wheels and nothing else ... and now ...





engine mounts , wheeel






lada 2107 breaks 2cilinder clamps



friend of mine making the exhaust ... he was 2 years champion in national class - and know what he is doing





engine in place




just to wire up the engin and fix coolant hoses and can test drive it ... hopefully quicker than police ...





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SALAD

posted on 2/9/07 at 01:42 AM Reply With Quote
Excellent, that's good going! Is that you sat in the drivers seat watching everyone else work?!
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t.j.

posted on 2/9/07 at 05:58 AM Reply With Quote
Good work, Dutchman in Serbia??

Your doing to hardest job sitting in the driverseat?

BTW: you must! place a safety-washer at your top-balljoint in front-wishbone.
If the rose-joint fail...............

Grtz and keep it going.





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Rudy

posted on 2/9/07 at 07:46 AM Reply With Quote
Weel done mate!
And is it possible to register the car in Serbia or you will have to go to UK?





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NeilP

posted on 2/9/07 at 08:57 AM Reply With Quote
Looking good Dutch!

What type of car do the police drive in Belgrade?





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Peteff

posted on 2/9/07 at 09:21 AM Reply With Quote
As we always say

Many hands make light work . Keep cracking the whip though, you'll soon be on the road at that rate.





yours, Pete

I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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Cousin Cleotis

posted on 2/9/07 at 09:22 AM Reply With Quote
Have you considered ackerman steering? lada uprights have seperate steering arms so you could make something to replace them.

If there is not enough clearence on the disk you could use a brake disk off a fiat punto which will have less height than the lada one.

You could also move the caliper to the rear of the disk and swap the calipers left to right.

Paul

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RichieW

posted on 2/9/07 at 10:24 AM Reply With Quote
Interesting looking track rod extensions on your steering rack....
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Dutchman

posted on 3/9/07 at 09:12 AM Reply With Quote
track rod extensions is just temporary insanity

there is more things to do , but in general we will start it today ...

police drives Grande Punto and PUG 307 in Belgrade so no chance to catch me .

It is possible to register Locost in Belgrade you just got to have donor car papers and pass the SVA that is 50Euro and one whiskey so they don't look to much ...


P.S. I;m not in the drivin seat





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Dangle_kt

posted on 7/9/07 at 11:14 AM Reply With Quote
Great progress! Tat looks like a good evening with a load of mates!
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iank

posted on 7/9/07 at 11:39 AM Reply With Quote
Looking good.

Slightly off topic, but the barbed plastic remote reservoir connectors in the master cylinders. What would you call them, and does anyone know where to get them. I could do with a couple for the (mini) master cylinder I'm using - I was going to fabricate something, but if you can buy them off the shelf it would save time+effort.





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Dutchman

posted on 8/9/07 at 08:14 AM Reply With Quote
@iank
it is LADA (VAZ) part

some video of test run

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=troIBIOvL3w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSdxBXRjkX0

only problem now is steering it has 3,2rounds on steering wheel some suggestion to have more direct steering





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t.j.

posted on 10/9/07 at 06:09 PM Reply With Quote
hmmm,

Nice a country where there is no police

Although it would not be funny if you hit someone/thing.

Grtz and keep up the building!





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Dutchman

posted on 10/9/07 at 10:04 PM Reply With Quote
trust me there is no police when U need it , but when U drive Locost like me yesterday you have swat team behind you (lucky 4 me they drive Micubushi Pajero )

today i drove to something like your SVA , but naked as you see on pics , just to tell me if I did something wrong ... and everything is wrong , firs there is nothing like SVA in my F*** country , but because that is laboratory on mechanical institute of our university they think that they are very smart ... so tomorrow they will tell me what cat can not go ...

imagine just this , the steering wheel is to low , how high is in ford gt40 I wonder ???





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ex_hustler

posted on 11/9/07 at 08:31 PM Reply With Quote
Greetings from Greece!
I like the parts you are using for your locost!

Are Lada uprights and live axle similar to
"escorts" live-axle and cortina uprights?

What else is usefull from a Lada donor? Did you tried to fit the engine to the locost?

Here in Greece you can buy a donor lada for
about 200-250 euros.

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Dutchman

posted on 11/9/07 at 11:52 PM Reply With Quote
live-axle and cortina uprights , let say that live axle is 3cm wider , and lada drum brakes can stop tank , cortina uprights are almost identical only difference is the distance from ball joint to ball joint , at lada upright is 12mm shorter so I used roseball joint on a peace of steel pipe that extend that , everybody said that I could use it with transit ball joint that 12mm is nothing special , but just in case I stick by the book ....

from lada You can use complete brake system , pedals except gas pedal, clutch , gearbox, diff , axcel , radiator ... ect

the parts that isn't lada at my locost are stearing wheel and complete stearing is from Yugo , engine is from fiat coupe , radiator in my case is from some peugeot ... and my problem was that I bought part by part from junk yard because I didn't have space to have Lada for parts in my backyard ... so except live axcel and trany everi other part was bought in a shop brand new

so Lada is great choice , cheep and if You go with Lada engine You can build it for les than 1000e for certain ... and can get up to 1000bhp from 1500ccm easily with two carburetors





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Dutchman

posted on 12/9/07 at 12:45 PM Reply With Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvc4RnSWaSw

it was very wet driving back from SVA ...





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Dutchman

posted on 13/9/07 at 11:14 AM Reply With Quote
Question , do U need certify welder to make front forks (or some TUV or how do U call attest ) and chassis to pass the SVA or U can do it individually @ U'r garage .

They make my life miserable vith that sh*t , because my car is first Locost in country , everybody else do the replicas and kit cars on Beetle chassis or Renault 4 , skoda and things like that with independent chassis

thx for any answer





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t.j.

posted on 13/9/07 at 04:34 PM Reply With Quote
Around here it's not needed to have a certified welder. It has to look good, so the tester isn't scared to drive it, due your welding skills
You also need a european brake certificate or test, European noise drive by test, and a drive test on a track to see how the car behavoirs.

Testing a home-build car is pretty expensive in NL tough. But is not impossible.

Kitcars can not be tested in NL. Because they will be tested equal to production-cars!

Conversions on beetle-chassis, landrover can be tested cheap, if the chassis incl engine is registered before in NL.

I think you need someone who knows the law in your country!

Good luck.

[Edited on 13/9/07 by t.j.]





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Dutchman

posted on 13/9/07 at 10:26 PM Reply With Quote
my current problem is that there is no law about home build car, only modifying chassis like beetle and land rover , and putting fiberglass bodywork on it ... maybe one day we will get that law ...

the only legal way is to fabricate one complete car and give to them to test it till they brake construction of the chassis and forks , and then say to me you can build another one like this it is OK ... the only problem is that I have to pay complete 2 month testing of university laboratories ... and guess that that is not cheap ...

lucky for me , in this country there is always back door , hopefully I will register it for one dinner and few gifts for his wife





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t.j.

posted on 14/9/07 at 05:45 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dutchman
lucky for me , in this country there is always back door , hopefully I will register it for one dinner and few gifts for his wife


I personal don't like that sort of constructions. Around here i'm glad this isn't the case anymore.

Rules for everyone, everyone the same rules.





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Dutchman

posted on 14/9/07 at 03:01 PM Reply With Quote
I don't like it either but what to do when there are no rules for this at all
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David Jenkins

posted on 14/9/07 at 03:07 PM Reply With Quote
The toughest practical testing system must be the Australian one, where you have to get your work certified by a qualified engineer at stages through the build.

Saying that, if you do what they say so that they'll pass it, you will get your car on the road. Engineer's fees are high though.

Even that's better than many European countries who just won't allow amateur builds, full stop.

I think that we're very lucky in the UK to have a reasonable system like SVA.

David





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gottabedone

posted on 14/9/07 at 05:10 PM Reply With Quote
Maybe a bit harsh guys....

we are supposed to have a fair yet strict system in the UK, yet if you took a car to one SVA centre it may pass but fail in the next three and this practise is still happening.
There is a big difference between sidestepping the minefield of legalities of passing a car and a dodgy registration because of the sh1te quality of your work.

Yes the Aus/Nz system is strict and robust but try finding an Australian builder who agrees with the rules surrounding the age and source of engine used!? Are their cars better built than ours because the are more strictly tested.....in the majority of cases I doubt it.

regards

Steve

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Dutchman

posted on 14/9/07 at 06:46 PM Reply With Quote
I think that SVA as a collection of very specific rules is best system for doing Your car, In my country the main law for traffic etc is from 1968. I;m surprised that the buggy is in it, like a possibility .... the problem with a country in transition is that there is much more bigger problems than self building of cars .

the only legal way as I said is to pay complete testing as U are building prototype for Mercedes-Benz and that even in Serbia is 6 figures in euros... Like I would drive something that is not safe and risk my life because of lousy welding ...

so if have to take someone to dinner and register my car as buggy I will be happy , but what about 2-3 of my friends that just started their project ...

but when U take a figure of 60.000 locosts in UK I doubt that rest of the world have a half of that figure





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