smart51
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| posted on 17/10/07 at 06:15 PM |
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How do you get lights e-marked?
I've been thinking about LED headlights. I could make some that are as bright if not brighter than standard halogen bulbs. I'd need a
silver reflector making but once that's done, they'd need to be tested to get an E mark.
How would I get this done?
I know it would probably be expensive and that's not the point. Once I'd satisfied myself that they work right, who would give me the
certificate?
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nib1980
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| posted on 17/10/07 at 06:17 PM |
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a homologation group/ company, (i think VOSA deal with homologating items)
It will be VERY expensive
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llionellis
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| posted on 17/10/07 at 06:47 PM |
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No prices quoted but check this site.
http://www.emcsolutionsltd.com/emarking.html
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t.j.
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| posted on 17/10/07 at 08:24 PM |
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You can get E-mark or e-mark
The lights have to be tested
You have to meet conformity of production
then it is possible to get a certificate and may you place an E or e
Happy reading:
E= Ece = geneva world wide
e= europe (27 countries)
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/site/en/consleg/1976/L/01976L0759-20070101-en.pdf
http://europa.eu/scadplus/leg/en/s06021.htm
ECE: http://www.unece.org/trans/main/welcwp29.htm
[Edited on 17/10/07 by t.j.]
Please feel free to correct my bad English, i'm still learning. Your Dutch is awfull! :-)
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matt_claydon
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| posted on 18/10/07 at 07:40 AM |
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It's VCA who do type approval in this country, not VOSA - http://www.vca.gov.uk
The legislation you need to look at is ECE regulation 112 which you'll find on the ECE site above.
You would also need to meet conformity of production (COP) arrangements which essentially means either having ISO9000 certification or otherwise
convincing VCA that every item you produce will be identical.
There is some more info on the VCA site. What you want to do is known as 'systems & components' approval. The first two link after the
text on this page probably tell you a lot of what you need to know:
http://www.vca.gov.uk/vehicletype/system-component-app.asp
[Edited on 18/10/07 by matt_claydon]
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RazMan
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| posted on 18/10/07 at 07:57 AM |
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I would be interested to know which type of LED would be bright enough for a headlight. I use Luxeon Stars for my lights (everything but the
headlights in fact) but I am unaware of anything brighter. The angle of view is often a problem but this can be overcome with clever reflector
design.
Any links?
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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Peteff
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| posted on 18/10/07 at 08:53 AM |
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I could make some that are as bright if not brighter than standard halogen bulbs
It's not the brightness it's the characteristics which are created by the lens pattern. You can buy extra bright bulbs which are not road
legal because they alter these characteristics so I think you would probably need to design a new glass or reflector pattern to suit the kind of light
thrown by the source.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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smart51
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| posted on 18/10/07 at 09:15 AM |
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The LEDs I'm thinking of using are made by Cree. 350mA at 3.3V nominal is just over a watt and makes 80 lumnens. An incandescent bult makes
typically 13 lumnens per watt. 10 of these LEDs can be driven off a single LED driver chip which provides a PWM regulated constant current to the
LEDs and can be switchable to provide low power for side lights and full power for dipped beam. I have a reflector design that will give the correct
viewing angles. Another row of 10 LEDs positioned differently will give the main beam pattern.
They also do red and amber versions for other light functions.
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t.j.
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| posted on 20/10/07 at 09:14 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by matt_claydon
It's VCA who do type approval in this country, not VOSA - http://www.vca.gov.uk
You are living in Europe so you can go to each memberstate.
Indicators are in ECE Regulation 6
In the Netherlands (www.RDW.nl) does certification for your COP and certification if tested, lightningtest in NL .
In Germany KBA (www.KBA.de) test mostly done by Tüv
So yo can do you COP in country A, test in B and certification lighting in C
So inform on cost and customer-care
grtz
Please feel free to correct my bad English, i'm still learning. Your Dutch is awfull! :-)
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