T1GER_SUPERCA7
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 posted on 30/10/07 at 02:19 PM |
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Glaring error with alloys! Tiger Supercat
Can anyone tell me if I have made a glaring error with my wheels on my Tiger Supercat?
I have gone through the painful process of searching for a set of wheels for my Tiger. After finally finding a set of wheels I was happy with I
ordered them. They have arrived today and as I'm off work, thought it was going to be a perfect day........
Gone to fit them and whilst the offset and PDC are perfect the nuts/ stud system will not work.
The hubs are ford sierra so have a 108PCD and require nuts on the outside of the wheels as the studs are connected to the hubs. The nuts fit perfectly
inside the wheel but the holes in the wheel do not allow me to get the socket in to tighten - Have I ordered the wrong wheels?
I look forward to your advice/ amusement or just down right mickey taking!
A very confused/ embarassed builder!
Chris
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stevec
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 02:23 PM |
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Slimmer socket?
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T1GER_SUPERCA7
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 02:29 PM |
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Sorry, I didnt make myself that clear - the nut itself almost touches the inside of the bore in wheel.
I have seen in the past studs which fit on the outside and there must be a threaded hole in the hub - I am presuming that these are the hubs required
to suit these wheels - I am hoping I am not the only builder to have made this mistake? Wishing!!!??????
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Guinness
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 02:32 PM |
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Try Speedshack.
http://www.speedshack.co.uk/Wheelnuts.htm
They seem to know their nuts!
Mike
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matt_claydon
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 02:35 PM |
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It wouldn't help if you were using wheel bolts with threaded hubs instead of nuts on studs - you still wouldn't get the socket over the
bolt heads!
Sounds like you need wheel nuts with smaller heads but the same thread size, don't know if such a thing is available though.
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Hammerhead
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 02:38 PM |
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Can you get cap head bolts that will fit? Yoiu can then use a hex bit on your torque wrench.
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locoboy
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 02:39 PM |
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or long nuts (excuse the phrase!) if they were long enough to protrude out from the wheel by enough to get a socket on them you would be ok.
if not commercially available maybe a trip to your local engineering shop would help and the could make some from some stock hex bar if you gave them
a nut to copy the taper and thread from.
ATB
Locoboy
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T1GER_SUPERCA7
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 02:52 PM |
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Thanks guys, just had a look on the speedshack website and it seems they have exactly what I am looking for - alternatively I will get some made.
Many thanks for your speedy advice.
Chris
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cryoman1965
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 02:53 PM |
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Did the nuts/studs come with the set of wheels?
This is the norm afaik.
Nige
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T1GER_SUPERCA7
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 03:02 PM |
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Nige,
Thanks for the response.
The nuts did not come with the wheels. I got the nuts from the local ford garage which were the correct ones for the sierra hubs. I think I need to go
for extended nuts which will obviously protrude enough to get the socket on.
Thanks
Chris
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Guinness
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 03:06 PM |
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Extended nuts! Sounds painful!
Pleased you found what you were looking for!
Mike
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scottc
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 03:11 PM |
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Theres normally a difference between nuts/bolts for steel wheels and those for alloys.
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PeterW
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 06:18 PM |
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Can you post a link to which Alloys you've got...? I've got a Supercat and I need to decide on what offset and size to go for, so any
pointers are useful
Cheers
Pete
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 06:56 PM |
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Be careful with protruding nuts as you could end up failing SVA due the the non-radiused edges. You should be fine with a set of wheel nuts that uses
a hex head adaptor key like.... http://www.speedshack.co.uk/images/Tuner%20nut%20with%20adaptor.jpg .
You may also need to look at fitting longer wheel studs if your hubs were originally fitted with steel wheels. These are an inference fit anyway so
not overly difficult to fit with the right technique.
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Danozeman
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 10:03 PM |
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Are they deepish dish wheels?? They often need sticky outy nuts..
You can get nuts with different hex sizes.
As said above if the nuts stick out past the edge of the rim u will fail sva.
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk
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T1GER_SUPERCA7
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| posted on 30/10/07 at 10:19 PM |
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Oops!!
Gents,
After finally getting through to www.potn.com (where I got the wheels) I found that they should have sent them with the delivery - 5 hours later the
delivery driver came back as they packaged my nuts seperately (as painful as it sounds!) - so feeling slightly red faced! Thanks to you all for the
advice though - A truly brilliant forum.
As you can see by the number of edits - its been a long day!
PeteW, they are Boss 17" Contour in Gunmetal finish with 205/40/17 Toyo's. Sat them next to the old Ford 13" pepperpots i've
got on at the moment to work on the car and they do look big but the darker grey gunmetal tone them down a little. I've got Wilwood 4 pot
calipers and 305mm x-drilled and grooved discs so I personally think they look the dogs at the moment. Obviously each to their own. If you send me
your email address I'll mail some pics over when they are on - tomorrow hopefully.
The wheels have a 35mm offset but I recon you could easily go for 35, 38 or 40 offset. Anything smaller and I think you will protrude the rear tub.
Chris.
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T1GER_SUPERCA7
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| posted on 7/11/07 at 10:28 AM |
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All / Pete,
I have now managed to put the wheels on. Many thanks for all your advice.
Pete,
Go to www.nwatoc.org.uk (North West Area Tiger Owners Club) and click the link to members. In the Cat section I am the last name on the list (Chris
Parker) and the new pics are there. You can also see some of the other owners cars to see what wheels they have gone for. It also includes my new
fibreglass seats from JK Composites - bargain at £175 and they really are very good quality - as good as the Caterham ones I have seen at shows for a
fraction of the cost.
Regards
Chris
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Hellfire
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| posted on 7/11/07 at 12:54 PM |
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Here you go
Phil
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