phil
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 posted on 19/1/02 at 10:20 AM |
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turbo diesel powered locost
Has anyone heard of one? I have a 1.7 tdi engine in a citroen bx that is about ready for taking of the road. Does any one know of a RWD gearbox that
takes the citroen diesel engine without to much hassle. The reason for wanting to use this engine is that its not very old,not many miles, does 40+
MPG and is very nippy and powerful
cheers PHIL....
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Dunc
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| posted on 19/1/02 at 11:44 PM |
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I've been playing with the idea of using a TD engine in mine, mainly as a cheaper mode of transport to and from work. I'd planned to use either a
VAG TD or a Rover TD. Both power medium sized cars yet still return 55mpg combined with approx 10s 0-60's, think what that'll be in a locost!
Fitting kits are available for these engines to fit sierra rwd gearboxes but I don't know how much it would be. you may have to make up your own
plate to fit engine and gearbox together. Would suggest getting hold of cheap sierra gearbox and seeing what mods you reckon you need to do. Do some
digging into gear ratios too so you get the best performance and torque from your application. Sorry cant help further.
Dunc.
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phil
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| posted on 20/1/02 at 09:30 AM |
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Thanks dunc, suppose you dont know of an address for anyone that makes the adaptor plates, or has any plans for them. Will the sierra gearbox fit in
to the locost frame without modification? cheers PHIL...
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Pablo
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| posted on 20/1/02 at 09:46 PM |
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Try these peeps, http://www.kennedyeng.com/
I know they r usa but ship worldwide, There is another Co that r in the UK but cant rem there name but thet advertise in car and conversions mag, I
will post it if I remember them.
Pabs
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Dunc
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| posted on 20/1/02 at 10:34 PM |
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The bell housing on a sierra box is quite large so you can either widen the transmission tunnel, reducing the footwell space. moving the engine and
gearbox forward will clear the chassis but may interfere with the front chassis members. You'll need to measure your engine. I had a flyer from a
engine conversion specialist, I'll look it out and post the address. bol.
Dunc.
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scott
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| posted on 23/2/02 at 11:22 AM |
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Hello, i just registered to reply to this post !
Way back in the early 90's some guy put a Ford 1.8 turbo diesel in a westfield, and Autocar tested it, in fact I still have the review somewhere,
anyway they said torque and performance was fantastic, or something similar.
Just thought you may be interested !
Cheers for now.
Scott
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macdave69
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| posted on 23/2/02 at 11:56 AM |
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Scott,
you will stay now you've joined won't you 
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scott
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| posted on 23/2/02 at 01:44 PM |
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I expect I will, although i'm not building a locost but a Robin Hood for my sins.
Please don't look down on me 
Scott
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Rex Mottershead
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| posted on 26/2/02 at 01:29 PM |
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Hi Phil - Like you I am looking for a way to convert a Citroen diesel to rwd, but havn't found one yet. I'm posting to suggest an Astra diesel
engine on a Sierra (petrol) gearbox. You can get a mating bell housing from 'SBD Developments' www.sbdev.co.uk, 0208 391 0121. It costs around £190.
If you find an answer to the Citroen diesel question I'd appreciate it if you would drop me a line. Cheers, Rex (rpm@abacus-tp.co.uk)
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 26/2/02 at 05:38 PM |
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If you are up to building your own chassis then you are more than capable of making your own adapter plate,.........
3mm plate bolted to engine, hole in middle for clutch ect....., 3mm plate bolted to gearbox, same hole, fit clutch, offer gearbox up to engine, gap
between plates, usually 1" to 2" fill with flat bar, iv'e made a fair few this way, Rover V8 to Audi, Cosworth to VW, all worked fine under
grasstrack racing conditions so more than up to road work, drop me an e~mail if you want me to talk you through how its done. Jon
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phil
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 posted on 26/2/02 at 07:02 PM |
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just to let you know that i've been told that a FSO polonez was made about 5-8 years ago fitted with a
citroen/pugeot diesel engine that was rear wheel drive, haven't seen any scrappers, but then i've only seen 1 on the road. At least its a starting
point.
Jon ,
thanks for the tip, may go down that road if all else fails,may be you could e-mail a sketch just to make sure i'm on the same wavelength.
CHEERS BOYS
PHIL........
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Rex Mottershead
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| posted on 27/2/02 at 08:23 AM |
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Just a quick thought on the same lines. What about the rwd box on a Peugeot 505 - I wonder if this would fit the current peugeot/citroen diesels? 505s
are a bit thin on the ground these days, but probably easier to find than a dead Polonez.
However for my own project I think I'll pass on hybrid units and just try to find an ex-Ford P100 1800cc TD c/w box then slap the whole thing in!
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Fatboy Dave
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| posted on 16/3/02 at 08:31 PM |
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Hi Folks.
I just registered too, so I could reply to this thread.
I used to own a TD Locost (now sadly sold), which used the Sierra/Mondeo 1.8 TD engine on a type 9 gearbox. It's well worth the effort to do, as it
creats a beast of a car with frightening acceleration.... (upset a Caterham this way once  ).
I'd recommend staying with the Fraud lump, but if you really want to use the PSA, them the 1905cc TD from the peugeot will mate to the Rover LT77 via
a bellhousing from a LDV 200/Pilot van.
Dave
V8 Dax Rush
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phil
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| posted on 17/3/02 at 09:04 AM |
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Cheers dave,
having never had anything to do with BL/ROVER cars,could you tell me what i'd find a lt77 g/box in and what year and model pilot am i
looking for.
many thanks.
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Fatboy Dave
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| posted on 17/3/02 at 12:14 PM |
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You'd find an LT77 hiding behind any Rover SD1, with either the 2.0 four pot, the 2.3/2.6 straight sixes, and the V8. My choice would either be the
(rare) 2.0, or a V8 (the V8 only revs to 5k, so it's got a similar upper rev limit as the diesel). LT77 were also fitted to alsorts of others like
Land Rovers and LDV vans, but they aren't worth the hassle to convert to 2wd/car use.
As to the van, it was 1992/J onwards. You'll need the bellhousing, and clutch operating arm.
Dave
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Rex Mottershead
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| posted on 17/3/02 at 02:38 PM |
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Thanx to Fatboy Dave for info about Mondeo TD but (excuse abysmal ignorance) where do you find a 'type 9' box please?
Cheers, Rex
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Fatboy Dave
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| posted on 17/3/02 at 02:43 PM |
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Inside evry five speed Sierra made between about 1983 and 1990-ish. After this, the Sierra used a lightweight ali case MT75 gearbox that doesn't fit
seven-esque cars without some pretty hairy modifications (remove remote shift housing and cut down etc.).
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Dunc
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| posted on 17/3/02 at 09:45 PM |
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Dave, just curious as I would like to fit a TD into my locost as the main 'get me to work and back cheaply'. What was your estimated MPG for your TD
locost before to parted with it?
Dunc.
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Fatboy Dave
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| posted on 17/3/02 at 10:03 PM |
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Dunc,
I was getting roughly 55mpg when cruising (quickly!), and just generally hacking around gave me high 40s.
Worst I ever saw was a calculated 37mpg on a hard 50 mile thrash (redlining and hitting the governor in almost every gear). That was pretty hairy
going.
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Danny
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| posted on 18/3/02 at 10:36 AM |
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I never thought id say it but Deisel seems a good idea, How much are Mondeo Deisel engines?
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Fatboy Dave
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| posted on 18/3/02 at 10:43 AM |
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Quite expensive sadly. About #300 for a Mondeo engine. They are also used in the Sierra, Escort and Fiesta, so get hold of a copy of the Ford 1800D
Haynes manual before you buy anything and get familiar with the engine codes, and stay away from non-turbo engines.
Apart from that, still not a bad setup.
Dave
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Rex Mottershead
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| posted on 18/3/02 at 02:26 PM |
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Thanks Dave. Mondeo/Fiesta turbo diesel on a Sierra cast iron box looks like the way to go for me. Thanks for the info. The hunt is on...
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Fatboy Dave
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| posted on 18/3/02 at 02:35 PM |
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No problem. You can use the turbo Escort engine too.
Just remember to route the exhaust up to the back of the car though, and remember that in convoys, you'll probably be tail end charlie, as no one
likes chewing diesel fumes (wasn't a problem for me, as the awesome low down torque had me up the back of all but the V8s out of roundabouts  )
Dave
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macdave69
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| posted on 20/3/02 at 07:29 AM |
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noticed that someone was looking for a fso with a peugeot engine
today's derby ad mag has one in at £200 on an M plate
the number listed is 0776 1229015
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James
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| posted on 22/3/02 at 01:33 PM |
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I spotted a 2.3lt Diesel Sierra the other day. What are these engines like? I'm not planning on using Diesel particularly but as it's the first one
I've noticed I guess it's quite rare maybe?
James
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