givemethebighammer
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| posted on 4/10/03 at 08:06 PM |
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Which Facet fuel pump ?
Think I want a Facet Redtop fuel pump for my zetec on carbs but which one solid state or interupter ?
http://www.raldes.co.uk/2003/page102.jpg
Do I need the filter / regulator thing ?
Is it also worth rubber mounting these things ?
thanks
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Northy
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| posted on 4/10/03 at 09:20 PM |
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I've got an Interupter jobbie. But it depends on the power output of your engine.
You will need a regulator, I've got one of the Filteeer king jobbies, because its wise to have a filter before the carbs, so why not do it in
one unit?
YES, rubber mount it. Just had my engine running today, and its still noisey when rubber mounted!
Graham
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 4/10/03 at 09:32 PM |
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Hmmm sod buying a new pump... they look expensive.
I'm sure i'll find a fuel pump on the back of a cav gsi somewhere  , with fitter and reg
[Edited on 4/10/03 by Ben_Copeland]
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dblissett
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| posted on 4/10/03 at 10:19 PM |
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i have just got a facet off a range rover
its the same spec as the 150 bhp one in europa spares
good luck
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Northy
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| posted on 4/10/03 at 10:25 PM |
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Yeah, I heard they were fitted to Range Rovers. I got mine thrown in with my the Webers I bought second hand, even cheaper
Graham
Website under construction. Help greatfully received as I don't really know what I'm doing!
"If a man says something in the woods and there are no women there, is he still wrong?"
Built 2L 8 Valve Vx Powered Avon
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givemethebighammer
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| posted on 5/10/03 at 10:40 AM |
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I'll check scrappies first for range rover, however I am planning 170+ bhp so this may not be up to the job
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Big Stu
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| posted on 5/10/03 at 01:22 PM |
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Could you not fit two of them then? Seen it done before on a racing Land Rover.
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givemethebighammer
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| posted on 5/10/03 at 07:24 PM |
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Maybe you could fit two but I'd like to keep things simple if possible
thanks
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 5/10/03 at 07:32 PM |
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ok... so whats the difference between all these different pumps then ???
Thought a pump was a pump lol
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Stu16v
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| posted on 5/10/03 at 09:42 PM |
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If only.....
To begin with, there are two types of fuel pump, injection and carb. A pump for an injection system CANNOT be used with carbs, and visa-versa, due to
the massive differences in pressure that these pumps deliver. As a rough guide, an injection pump delivers 50 psi+, whereas a carb pump will be around
5 psi.
I honestly dont know whether an injection pump can be utilised with a "Filter-King" pressure regulator, it may be too much pressure for
the regulator to handle. Bets to think carefully about the Cav GSi pump, and find out whether a reg would cope......
The choices of Facet pump is a little intimidating too. But as long as it is a pump designated for use with carbs, my advise is to get the highest
capacity one, and run it with the aformentioned regulator with the pump as near to the tank as possible, and the regulator near the carbs.
Even if the pump is capable of delivering far more fuel than can be utilised by your engines present state of tune, you now have the extra capacity
for upgrades at a later date if you so desire-without starving the engine of fuel, or having to buy yet another pump.
HTH Stu.
[Edited on 5/10/03 by Stu16v]
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 5/10/03 at 09:48 PM |
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Cheers Stu, I've seen an Astra GSI (same engine as cav GSi) on the injection pump, but running carbs..... so think it's possible. Though
they did use a rather large amount of fuel, but were Weber 48's !!!!!
But think i'll stick with Facet Pump in that case! Which ones are capable of supplying enough fuel for 200bhp ?
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Stu16v
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| posted on 5/10/03 at 11:04 PM |
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Good question, and I dont know offhand, but IIRC the Demon Thieves catalogue gives the pump fuel delivery and an approximate BHP rating.
Cheers, Stu.
Dont just build it.....make it!
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 6/10/03 at 06:25 AM |
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ok Stu, thanks 'll have a look
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 6/10/03 at 09:41 AM |
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Slightly off topic... but still fuel related!
I've got some braided hose, which has got a I/D of just over 7mm... what do people recon on using this ? If i can get away with using it..
it'll save my some money
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dblissett
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| posted on 6/10/03 at 08:55 PM |
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if you get a copy of europa's catalouge
it has the facet pumps rated by horsepower for webers you need a high volume of fuel at a low preasure this is the oposite of a fuel injection
system
good luck dave blissett
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Fast Westie
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| posted on 17/10/03 at 09:49 AM |
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Facet Interupter pumps - hmmm
I have been through 4 Facet silver top pumps on my Westfield, they are not reliable although they do flow enough fuel for 200bhp.
The problem is that if there is any fuel starvation, or vaporisation the contacts arc and then they stick, normally in the middle of nowhere!
I would recomend a Holley or Weber pump, or at worse case a Facet solid state.
The car in front is a Westfield
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