flak monkey
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 01:00 PM |
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Vista or not?
That is the question for those who are already using it.
Looking at building myself a highish spec gaming machine and i dont know whether to stick to Win XP pro or got for Vista 64bit Pro.
Whats the compatability like for older software, games etc?
The other thing that puts me off is the huge amount of system resource it seems to need just to run...
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 01:05 PM |
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my next machine is going to be a mac as I'm so feb up with this windows rubbish.
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The other thing that puts me off is the huge amount of system resource it seems to need just to run...quote:
indeed and what on earth does it do with it all? it's just a cursor and some folders! Never had any problem with DOS...
[Edited on 12/12/07 by Mr Whippy]
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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twybrow
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 01:06 PM |
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I just got a brand new laptop through work. It was pre-instaleld with Vista. They took a day to get rid of weverything and puit XP back on. They said
that for now, it is just too unstable and takes up too much memory/ processor power.
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rallyingden
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 01:07 PM |
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We tried it at office & home.
Half of our software fell flat on its face.
Let those with the resources & time sort out the bugs first.
RD 
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Gergely
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 01:10 PM |
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I think LFS struggles with Vista and many gaming pads too, so I would say no...
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coozer
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 01:11 PM |
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i bought a vista machine with 1gb of memory and a 320gb HDD.
Vista uses 500mb of the memory idling so I've upped that to 2gb.
it takes up 18gb on the HDD.
I've turned off all the rubbish like the side bar and its still quite sluggish. I have had some software issues as well.
I feel like going back to Win2K. It was the most stable system I've ever used.
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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Pdlewis
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 01:22 PM |
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I think it is worth bee aware VISTA use dynamic memory management so for anyone who doesnt write software. what it does is preload apps and files it
thinks you are going to use when that memory is then requested for use it dropps the buffer and frees it for use therfore appearing like it is using
the full quota for RAM when actually its using very little
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mcerd1
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 01:23 PM |
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I'd normally wait until at least service pack 1 for any new windows
by then they should have sorted the worst of it - well maybe
just for comparison Win 2000 only needs about 3Gb of HDD space and runs most things with just 256Mb of RAM or less
I thought XP was bad enough, Vista is sounding worse all the time - I wish they'd do a simplified version without all the rubbish 
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 01:26 PM |
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Iv heard some bad things about vista but my dad has vista in his office (Mainly used for word and excel) and has had no problems.
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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davidosullivan
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 01:31 PM |
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I've got a Mac laptop. OSX Tiger. wouldnt go back to windoze.
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Humbug
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 01:31 PM |
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Obviously Microsoft is so "confident" (snigger!) in vista that they are planning to release a Service Pack 3 for XP. See here:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-XP-Service-Pack-3-Leaked-Details-57825.shtml
I have to say that I am using XP with SP 2 and now (some years later) it is more or less OK.
I have been toying with Linux - may have a play over Xmas. I downloaded Kubuntu and it looks quite good. My only major concern is that I am not
familiar with how to set things up, tweak them etc. whereas I am with Windows
[Edited on 12.12.2007 by Humbug]
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bonzoronnie
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 01:35 PM |
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Vista
I recently built a new system.
I thought I would treat myself to an Honest to goodness genuine copy of Vista home premium.
The system hs dual core processor. 4 gig latest memory. 512mb Graphic card. etc
Although I like the look of vista.
The system is very SlOOOOOW. I am well dissapointed.
I intend to return to XP Pro in the new year.
Ronnie 
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tegwin
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 01:45 PM |
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I built a new computer...3Gig intel dualcore, 2Gb DDR2 RAM and 180Gb SATA disk...
Stuck vista ultimate on it and it was crap tastic! So slow...
So I have switched back to XP, and it is damn fast!!!
Only downside is that XP wont support more than 2 Gig of ram...
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 01:47 PM |
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It does have its uses but no for a gaming machine. I find it quite good on the home laptop as it is fairly user-friendly and recognises most
peripherals, cameras, phones etc without having to try to remember what you did with the CD with the software/drivers on. It does need a lot of
resources though!
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mcerd1
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 02:13 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Richard Quinn
.....recognises most peripherals, cameras, phones etc without having to try to remember what you did with the CD with the software/drivers on. It does
need a lot of resources though!
personally I never bother with the CD's for those things anyway - they are normally a bit out of date - sometimes alot out of date 
I always try to download the upto date stuff (most good brands make it easy)
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onzarob
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 02:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Humbug
I have been toying with Linux - may have a play over Xmas. I downloaded Kubuntu and it looks quite good. My only major concern is that I am not
familiar with how to set things up, tweak them etc. whereas I am with Windows
[Edited on 12.12.2007 by Humbug]
Get Ubuntu its great and it autoconfigs and downloads drivers/updates.I had the same reservation but it leaps ahead of the old Linux setups.
You can boot on the live cd and reduce the Windows partition and it installs 'Grub' allowing you to easily boot into either OS.
I had a few issues with wireless but the help on the ubuntu forums and help pages is also comprehensive.
I can'y say enough about it, i also run it on my laptop and have Vista so I can run whichever flavor of OS.
But Vista does hammer memory 2gB min.
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flak monkey
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 02:26 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by tegwin
Only downside is that XP wont support more than 2 Gig of ram...
I think XP should take 4Gb of ram max, but i may be wrong. Something to do with 32bit software and the memory controller. No idea myself. Maybe they
can bump it up when they release SP3, similar to the way they put large disk support on win 98 ()
Looks like i'll buy myself another copy of win xp pro then!
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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indykid
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 02:46 PM |
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only solidworks 2008 is compatible with vista, should you fancy procuring a copy. hard to come by on torrents, or so i've heard........
i'd imagine it's the same for most other CAD software.
my laptop came with vista. i'm so glad i have XP back on it!
tom
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Benzine
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 02:51 PM |
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Vista is the best OS microsoft has made, I have home premium 64 and it's excellent. Faster than XP and runs DX10. Vista is designed for
multicore CPUs and is quicker and more secure than XP will ever be. XP is just a beefed up version of 2K which is ancient.
Also pc>mac ^__^
[Edited on 12/12/07 by Benzine]
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flak monkey
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 02:55 PM |
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I could always do the old fashioned thing and dual boot
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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britishtrident
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 03:21 PM |
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Stick to Xp, Vista runs OK with loads & loads of memory ie 2+ gb and a lot the crap turned off. Some older non M$ apps run into problems.
The 64bit version is much less solid.
In another couple years it will have settled down just as all the previous Windows versions did.
Under the hood Vista is really still Xp but with much more crap bolted on. Like coozer I also think Window 2000 (aka NT5) was the best version of
Windows for serious use.
If you wanted the computer for anything else other than gaming I would say stick a copy of Mint Linux on it (a properly sorted Ubuntu wit all the
multimedia and wireless stuff working)
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Benzine
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 03:27 PM |
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lol k
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twybrow
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 04:41 PM |
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We should all go back to Windows 95 or 98 - your machines would start up in about 3 seconds!
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locogeoff
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 06:06 PM |
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Got Vista home on the livingroom laptop, it's fine for surfing and email etc.
OTOH I've just spent a good few days trying to help someone get one of our products to run, only to find he was using vista, and guess what we
have never tried to run our software on vista, and it looks like it doesn't run, and this was no fancy piece of code, just a simple comms
program.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 12/12/07 at 07:33 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by twybrow
We should all go back to Windows 95 or 98 - your machines would start up in about 3 seconds!
...and blue-screen every 30 minutes!
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