itiejim
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| posted on 27/1/08 at 11:02 AM |
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Blackbird to R1 swap??
Hi folks, I've recently bought a Blackbird engined Fury.
Looking at the oiling issues, plus a couple of things I'm unhappy about with the car (in particular the wiring) I was wondering how easy it is
to swap to an R1 engine?
I could probably buy an engine for less that the price of dry-sumping the bird lump, plus if I want to rewire what's in there anyway... I just
wondered whether I'm just as well to move on?
Any mounting issues etc?
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Aico
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| posted on 27/1/08 at 11:24 AM |
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A drysump would be cheaper than an engineswap. Around 1200 Pounds vs 2500 Pounds.
[Edited on 27/1/08 by Aico]
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tomblyth
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| posted on 27/1/08 at 11:37 AM |
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Fit an accusump a mate has had one on his blackbird engined tiger avon for over a year with no problems! cheaper than R1 moter or dry sump kit , and
the blackbird motors brilliant!
http://www.accusump.com/
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itiejim
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| posted on 27/1/08 at 11:57 AM |
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Hi, cheers for the replies. I've actually already got an accusump on there, though they have their limitations.
My main reasoning behind the swap was just that I could buy a complete late R1 kit for about £1500 and resolve my wiring and (potential) oiling
issues, plus have an extra few BHP (though less torque) and save about 30 kg at the same time.
I guess I'd need a new engine cradle, and possibly a prop shaft, but with what I could get back for my 'bird engine it might not cost me
too much...
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 27/1/08 at 08:47 PM |
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Having done a blade to R1 conversion, Id suggest adding about £1200 on top of the engine price (ie ~£2500-2700) to give you a reasonable idea of the
costs, minus what you can sell the old stuff for
One thing you havent mentioned is manifold, which is going to be ~£4-500 straight away. If your 'bird is an older carb engine, you'll also
need new fuel tank, fuel pump and an additional return fuel line up the tunnel.
The other thing is you're slightly compromised by the fact that the 'bird isn't espeically popular any more, so the resale value of
the bits you take out probably won't be all that good. 
cheers
Chris
[Edited on 27/1/08 by ChrisGamlin]
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jimgiblett
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| posted on 28/1/08 at 01:38 PM |
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If you are interested I'm selling my new Fury R1 manifold (It will fit the 2003 or earlier motor not sure about the later ones). Looking for
offers around £300.
- Jim
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