garage19
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| posted on 6/4/08 at 07:46 AM |
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Small and RWD car eg chevette, starlet etc
I'm looking for something small and RWD for a bike engine project.
Ideally something like a Vauxhall Chevette, Talbot Sunbeam or Toyota Starlet.
Does anyone know of anything, preferably within a 100 mile radius of Ipswich.
Or can anyone suggest any other makes/models that might be worth looking at?
Thanks,
Doug.
Ps. It must have four wheels so no plastic pigs!
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ruskino80
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| posted on 6/4/08 at 07:54 AM |
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fiat 126 would be a good candidate i would have thought? rare now though.
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froggy
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| posted on 6/4/08 at 08:04 AM |
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anything steel will be far too heavy for a bike engine without a turbo, an r1 mini is no quicker than my kitten despite me being 50hp down against
the r1 engine.
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TimC
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| posted on 6/4/08 at 08:07 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dragon-Performance-Eu
Oi stop trying to steal my project 
cant help with UK sales but if you want to pay for a container i can ship mk1 escorts, chevettes, sunbeams, morris minors etc from here by the
container load.....
What? How much can you get a solid Mk1 or M<k2 3dr Escort for?
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rash
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| posted on 6/4/08 at 08:07 AM |
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what about thise bay 360037339863 ntdwm
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big_wasa
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| posted on 6/4/08 at 08:18 AM |
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Get asking around your locall farms.
My job takes me to lotts of farms across the area and I see loads. One near me has five Mk5 cortinas and at least 50 asorted other cars from the
70's to the 90's.
On another farm, he had over 300  to feed a small used car garage.
The banger boys can be a good source.
The locall paper has adverts for scrap cars collected. Often by the banger boys. Give them a ring and tell them what your after.
If your paying more than scrap there is alyays a deal to be done.
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Werner Van Loock
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| posted on 6/4/08 at 09:32 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ruskino80
fiat 126 would be a good candidate i would have thought? rare now though.
If you want 126's, go to Poland, huge amounts to be found there for beertokens
They used to have a factory there and therefore the wife's car for 90% of the families, can't miss em.
http://www.clubstylus.be
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 6/4/08 at 10:50 AM |
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i think chevette woud be too heavy also .
DAF would be a good choice , they already have bike engines in them !!
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus
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twybrow
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| posted on 6/4/08 at 12:01 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Volvorsport
i think chevette woud be too heavy also .
DAF would be a good choice , they already have bike engines in them !!
We used to have a DAF 66. Awesome little car. It ran on rubber bands! And the windscreen washer was a rubber ball on the dash that you manually pumped
to wash! Spelndid.
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garage19
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| posted on 6/4/08 at 12:29 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Volvorsport
i think chevette woud be too heavy also .
DAF would be a good choice , they already have bike engines in them !!
2 door Chevette weighs 826 kg.
By the time you strip it out and add fibre glass bonnet, boot, poly carb windows and a bike engine that will be much lighter than the 1256
engine/gearbox combo i'm sure i could get it under 700 kg if not lighter.
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smart1275gt
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| posted on 6/4/08 at 01:44 PM |
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Bedford Rascal or Suzuki super carry van's are RWD. would make a cool bike engined project and drift car!!
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 6/4/08 at 01:52 PM |
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how much power does an R1 put out ?
at 700 kg , i still think its too heavy .
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus
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smart1275gt
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| posted on 6/4/08 at 02:02 PM |
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Yeah, it's gotta be 400kg all up or it's not worth it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-nZKqPQMEo
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froggy
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| posted on 6/4/08 at 02:05 PM |
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ditto above, mine is pretty good up to 60mph and will outrun most cars but above that its a bit limp and thats with 260bhp/tonne . i had a z cars r1
mini in for test and on my rollers it weighed 650kg with a fibreglass front end
my car is 460kg with a couple of gallons of fuel in it
[Edited on 6/4/08 by froggy]
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itiejim
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| posted on 6/4/08 at 03:04 PM |
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It can only be a Reliant Kitten - anything else will be too lardy.
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Guinness
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| posted on 6/4/08 at 03:51 PM |
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Trabant?
Saw one today and thought donor for Doug!
Mike
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imp paul
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| posted on 6/4/08 at 04:15 PM |
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Minicooper
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| posted on 6/4/08 at 04:32 PM |
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Something like a ZX12, Hayabusa, etc will be be very quick in something weighing 700kg or less, ideally no more than 600kg.
While I agree getting the car as light as possible is especially important for bec, I don't agree that it has to be 400kg or it's not
worth it
Have a look at this smart car video, I believe the bike engined smart car is close to 700kgs using the gsxr1000 motor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5S1NAMnYKM
Cheers
David
[Edited on 6/4/08 by Minicooper]
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froggy
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| posted on 6/4/08 at 07:07 PM |
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physics comes into it too ,getting from standstill to 60 is one thing but its the real world acceleration that shows up a bike engined cars achiles
heel, from 50 to 100 a road car with 250+hp will pull away from a bec due to having more outright power to push the car against the wind.
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garage19
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| posted on 6/4/08 at 07:11 PM |
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Engine will be a zzr1100 so 140bhp to start.
Will only be n/a till next winter and then 250 bhp turbo conversion with plenty more torque. I'm sure it will be fast enough.
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