andrew.carwithen
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| posted on 30/5/08 at 10:49 PM |
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Knock at the door...
Was beavering away in the garage earlier when there was a knock at the front door.
Wife came in to tell me that two female PCSO/police officers wanted a word with me.
Asked if I owned a green roadster and when I replied in the affirmitive asked if they could come inside.
So I showed them the car in the garage and they obviously clocked lack of numberplate and enquired if it was registered/insured/taxed etc. which,
obviously, it isn't.
Apparently a neighbour has reported me for driving it on the road (took it around the block a couple of times a week ago testing brakes etc.)
Then they proceeded to lecture me about driving it illegally etc. and that they are perfectly in their right to seize the car should they so wish.
Fair enough, I was in the wrong.
I did explain my reasons for test-driving it (intend driving to SVA which is 40 miles away and so want to make sure its safe and everything works ok
etc.) which, again, I know is not a valid reason.
However, what really grips my sh*t is that whoever this neighbour is (they wouldn't tell me who it is - but must live in my road or how else
would the police know which door to knock on?) didn't have the balls or good grace to tell me direct they weren't happy about me driving
the car.
[Edited on 30/5/08 by andrew.carwithen]
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blakep82
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| posted on 30/5/08 at 10:55 PM |
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we live on a dead end street, and my sister had her car parked outside, on the street. one of our neighbours reported her for having no road tax, the
day after it expired
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Benzine
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| posted on 30/5/08 at 10:58 PM |
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 the people that make these kinds of complaints must be deeply unhappy
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craig1410
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| posted on 30/5/08 at 11:03 PM |
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Hi,
Sorry to hear of your problem - this is something which has concerned me enough to prevent me from going out on the road myself despite considerable
temptation. You never really know your neighbours I feel, and they know that they can just lift the phone and anonymously get you a kick in the ar$e!
If I was you I would politely go around your immediate neighbours and in a non-confrontational manner ask them if they were responsible and why they
felt it necessary to involve the police when they only had to voice their concern directly to yourself. Of course I'm assuming you are an
approachable chap and not a scary man! 
On another note, it's a bit late now but I think I might have been a bit more careful what I said to the police. I wouldn't have admitted
anything but would have accepted their advice in a way which made it clear the message had been received loud and clear. It sounds like you've
got away with a slap on the wrist but it could obviously have been nasty.
A lesson to all of us I guess - maybe the best way to achieve SVA is to use a trailer and worry about insurance and other legal requirements once SVA
is complete. Alternatively book an MOT with a local station and get insurance to allow you to drive to it with another vehicle shadowing you. That way
you get to legally drive the car on the road without any hassles and get the benefit of a cheap pre-SVA (ie MOT) test.
Cheers,
Craig.
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RK
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| posted on 30/5/08 at 11:10 PM |
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I remember having a bad motorbike crash many years ago, whereby I ended up somersaulting down the sidewalk as my bike slid into a tree. I narrowly
missed the back end of a parked car...
A guy comes out of his house, sees me on the ground, sees the bike with smoke coming out of it and goes "I certainly hope you haven't
damaged my rock wall!" A friend following me on his bike and I hightailed it over to a another guy's house, and the bike was left there
for two weeks while I went on holiday. Another "friend" borrowed it (it still ran), while I was away, and of course proceeded to crash it
again.
These people are heartless barstewards.
[Edited on 30/5/08 by RK]
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iank
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| posted on 30/5/08 at 11:12 PM |
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Think I'd be sawing 2x4's into inch cubes using a circular saw from 7am Sunday morning till I got bored.
Then maybe use up some angle grinder discs on scrap steel tubing.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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RK
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| posted on 30/5/08 at 11:14 PM |
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Except that bothers the majority who are perfectly normal.
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Agriv8
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| posted on 30/5/08 at 11:15 PM |
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or another reason someone has complained 'fair enough' police investigating because it is the end of the monthe and they need to get the
Stat's up.
Regards
Agriv8
Taller than your average Guy !
Management is like a tree of monkeys. - Those at the top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. BUT Those at the bottom look up and see a
tree full of a*seholes .............
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andrew.carwithen
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| posted on 30/5/08 at 11:23 PM |
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I did initially deny it but was advised to seriously reconsider my answer, inferring they had evidence to the contrary. I was at no stage put under
caution so admitted to driving it.
As regards talking to the neighbours to find out who it was, I don't want to give whoever it may be, the satisfaction of knowing it has got to
me enough to want to find out! (if that makes sense?) If they want to be petty and small-minded then I will simply ignore them!
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D Beddows
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| posted on 30/5/08 at 11:28 PM |
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My local busy body (who complained so much about children having fun he got the council to put up 'No Ball Games' notices on our street )
daughter decided to get the jet washer out at 8.00am last Sunday morning to wash her car  gloves are off 
I would have asked them them what physical proof they actually had to be honest.........
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MikeR
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| posted on 30/5/08 at 11:49 PM |
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Errm .... i know i'm too considerate to my neighbours by most peoples standards but perhaps you want to wait a few days before you do
anything.
You've just broken the law and have been reported for doing so. Seems pretty fair to me.
How does anyone on your street know your car is legal. You've built it yourself, to most people this is amazing and they'll find it hard
to believe its actually allowed. Its therefore pretty reasonable taking that view point to assume its a death trap. The way you describe where you
live i imagine there are children around.....
its not hard to get scared, put two and two together, come up with 219 & do the socially responsible thing ..... ie do something about it.
Lets put it another way, if some local chav moved in next door, spent ages making loads of noise making a nova 'better'. You saw the
standard of the work and knew it wasn't safe. He then started razzing up and down the street. Would you just let him get on with it?
As for making noise at 8am - did you have a word with them? One of my neighbours got a mate with a chain saw to cut a hedge at 8am one Sunday. Ex
stormed out the house, explained that she didn't mind if he made the noise at 10am but at 8am he was taking the wee and would he please stop. He
did and we all lived happily ever after.
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blakep82
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| posted on 30/5/08 at 11:54 PM |
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^ so the moral of your story is... the neighbour should have had a word with him rather than go to the police? 
i know what you mean though, yes, you did break the law by driving a unregistered, uninsured, untaxed car on the road. my sister broke the law and
while your neighbour SHOULD have had a work with you directl as this would have been the decent thing to do i'd say, well, it is against the law
and thats what the police specialise in... take it on the chin and get on with it i think
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D Beddows
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 12:46 AM |
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quote:
As for making noise at 8am - did you have a word with them? One of my neighbours got a mate with a chain saw to cut a hedge at 8am one Sunday. Ex
stormed out the house, explained that she didn't mind if he made the noise at 10am but at 8am he was taking the wee and would he please stop. He
did and we all lived happily ever after.
Nah, at 8am on a Sunday it would have involved me, a stanley knife and a hose pipe - however simply closing the window means the t*sser
can't complain about me loading a car onto a trailer at about the same time but if he does
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Macbeast
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 12:47 AM |
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So you were driving a vehicle on the public highway with no insurance? Have you thought what might have happened if you had hit anybody ?
Got no sympathy for you at all.
I've seen plenty of posts on here about how terrible it is that chavs / immigrants / refugees are driving around with no tax, MOT and insurance
and everybody says something should be done. As for your neighbour reporting you - these days if you confront someone about dropping a piece of
litter, you're liable to get a knife in your ribs.
I'm not saying I wouldn't do the same as you but if I'm caught I won't whine about it.
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 06:31 AM |
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NO sympathy from me . How would you feel if one of your family members/friends was hit and injured or worse by an uninsured driver? Part of the reason
insurance is so high is because of uninsured drivers. Sorry, I side with the neighbour
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eznfrank
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 06:44 AM |
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I kind of agree with the above, although it's probably down to the neighbour not really knowing what it is. When I had my chassi delivered my
neighbour thought it was a bed and then when I first rolled it out she thought it was a go-kart, erm it's a bit big for a go-kart love!!!
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Benzine
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 06:45 AM |
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It's crawling round the local street at low speed, it's not deathrace 2000
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Guinness
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 07:07 AM |
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Andrew
I wouldn't let it bother you AT ALL! Let it all wash over you in an oasis of calm reflection!
Once you've passed your SVA and got your plates, THEN you can have some fun with with your neighbour!
The car will be completely road legal and you can drive up and down your street as much as you like with a grin like a cheshire cat!
In fact, you could invite a couple of other local 7's round for a BBQ!
Cheers
Mike
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Howlor
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 07:36 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by andrew.carwithen
However, what really grips my sh*t is
[Edited on 30/5/08 by andrew.carwithen]
Great line!
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tks
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 08:13 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by andrew.carwithen
Was beavering away in the garage earlier when there was a knock at the front door.
Wife came in to tell me that two female PCSO/police officers wanted a word with me.
Asked if I owned a green roadster and when I replied in the affirmitive asked if they could come inside.
So I showed them the car in the garage and they obviously clocked lack of numberplate and enquired if it was registered/insured/taxed etc. which,
obviously, it isn't.
Apparently a neighbour has reported me for driving it on the road (took it around the block a couple of times a week ago testing brakes etc.)
Then they proceeded to lecture me about driving it illegally etc. and that they are perfectly in their right to seize the car should they so wish.
Fair enough, I was in the wrong.
I did explain my reasons for test-driving it (intend driving to SVA which is 40 miles away and so want to make sure its safe and everything works ok
etc.) which, again, I know is not a valid reason.
However, what really grips my sh*t is that whoever this neighbour is (they wouldn't tell me who it is - but must live in my road or how else
would the police know which door to knock on?) didn't have the balls or good grace to tell me direct they weren't happy about me driving
the car.
[Edited on 30/5/08 by andrew.carwithen]
I am with the neigbours... not that i don't untherstand your point but its simply against the rulez and they are totally in their right to do
what they did, saying that i hope that the one that reported you is not your best neighbour.....
p.s. maybe it was a female (the don't have b**lss.....) 
The above comments are always meant to be from the above persons perspective.
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r1_pete
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 08:42 AM |
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I'm with Guinness, get it legal and then enjoy it, had a similar issue a couple of summers ago, I rode a bike up and down the street with no hat
on! but guess where the 7.00am Sunday ride outs start from now.....
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 08:52 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
It's crawling round the local street at low speed, it's not deathrace 2000
IT STILL HAS NO INSURANCE, SVA OR ROADTAX
irrespective of what speed it was doing he was still breaking the law. And yes the law does apply to everyone even a---s that think they are above
it.
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rf900rush
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 09:29 AM |
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If any one asks have you done X just say no.
let them prove you did.
Often you are the only proof when you confess.
For example.
About once a month some scumbag graffities,damages etc in our area, and yep the police just say bovvered face bovvered...
then sorry got to go, nother speed camara is full!
Although we have just had them round for a door to door murder enquiry.
And after speaking to them it does seem they are under staffed in general policing.
We all know whos responsable for that.
Time the sc*mb*gs ripping us off party need booting out. But which thieving sc*mb*gs do we replace them with.
Todays Moan over.
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mr henderson
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 09:31 AM |
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I'm amazed that nobody yet has asked about what I would have thought was the most obvious point! How much noise does this car make????
There is virtually nothing that will annoy neighbours as much as noise levels above the ordinary.
John
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Moorron
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 09:33 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Guinness
Andrew
I wouldn't let it bother you AT ALL! Let it all wash over you in an oasis of calm reflection!
Once you've passed your SVA and got your plates, THEN you can have some fun with with your neighbour!
The car will be completely road legal and you can drive up and down your street as much as you like with a grin like a cheshire cat!
In fact, you could invite a couple of other local 7's round for a BBQ!
Cheers
Mike
+1 on that lot.
i like to think im reasonable but i think alot of people here arnt. me and an older neighbour got into nitro monster RC trucks, very loud and
annoying. We always got them out in the dead end street infront of both our houses. It must have been annoying for others, but until someone asks me
to slow it up or avoid certain times (we never did it late of early), then im going to carry on doing it.
One day when i was on my own a lady from about 4 doors up ran over to me upset and told me i should f@@k off and do it near my own house, i stayed
calm and told her the house she is standing infront of was mine. i then stopped for that evening, and carried on with tuning my V8 outside on my
drive.
If she came upto me and said she was sleeping, having a bbq, or whatever i would have used the rest of the fuel and stopped for the evening, but
because she came upto me and threatened me with the police i got my own back. I thought t myself 'wait until the summer luv, when the louder
car comes out of hiding' lol
Ive had to turn my sorned car round before and had to push it on the road to do this, waiting for the local plod to lecture me about it i thought what
i cold do in my defence, but thats what they want an arguement you cant win so now i dont talk to any of them.
i would have ignored the police in your situation, they didnt have any evidence so its your word against the guy who reported it, they knew this thats
why they bullied you with threats into admiting it was you.
Sorry about my spelling, im an engineer and only work in numbers.
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