YQUSTA
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 01:40 PM |
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Am I being unrealistic?
I am new to the kit car scene but have been in love with lotus 7 kits for many years.
I am now looking into buying a B.E.C kit (second hand) for around £7500.
Am I being unrealistic in trying to find a nice 1 for this price?
I am intending on using it on a regular basis so would need to have wet weather gear and a reverse. these would all have to come within the £7500
budget.
should I save up some more hard earned cash?
any opinions and advice or offers
 welcome.
[Edited on 3/7/08 by YQUSTA]
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graememk
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 01:40 PM |
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wet weather gear and reverse you might as well get a cec as all the benifits of owning a bec will be lost.
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DRC INDY 7
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 01:42 PM |
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yea cec is best 
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indykid
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 01:43 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by graememk
wet weather gear and reverse you might as well get a cec as all the benifits of owning a bec will be lost.
+1
an XE or duratec should get you into the bottom end of bike engine performance i'd imagine and still be usable in the wet
tom
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eznfrank
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 01:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by graememk
wet weather gear and reverse you might as well get a cec as all the benifits of owning a bec will be lost.
Agreed, all sounds a bit lardy for my liking!!
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 01:45 PM |
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You should get a very nice car for around £7.5k but as above do you really want weather gear?? These cars arent fun to drive in the wet with the power
you have available, and due to the generally stripped out nature with no trim / carpets, and fibreglass seats it doesnt really matter too much if they
get wet inside every once in a while. Have a look at the classifieds on Pistonheads and keep your eyes peeled here. Nice MNR might be available soon
but suspect it'll be a bit above £7.5k
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mikeb
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 01:47 PM |
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Are BEC's undriveably in the wet?
If I was set on a BEC (which I'm not!)
I wouldn't mind driving more cautiously in the wet, to still enjoy the full potential when the sun comes out. But if it really is dangerous or
hard work in the wet and thats part of you plan for driving I'd go for a CEC................................
[Edited on 3/7/08 by mikeb]
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mackei23b
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 01:52 PM |
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Driven my BEC through some heavy rain, with standing water on the road, all was OK. Just need to drive sensibly and it's fine, just not the most
pleasant.
Cheers
Ian
quote:
Originally posted by mikeb
Are BEC's undriveably in the wet?
If I was set on a BEC (which I'm not!)
I wouldn't mind driving more cautiously in the wet, to still enjoy the full potential when the sun comes out. But if it really is dangerous or
hard work in the wet and thats part of you plan for driving I'd go for a CEC................................
[Edited on 3/7/08 by mikeb]
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 01:52 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mikeb
Are BEC's undriveably in the wet?
If I was set on a BEC (which I'm not!)
I wouldn't mind driving more cautiously in the wet, to still enjoy the full potential when the sun comes out. But if it really is dangerous or
hard work in the wet and thats part of you plan for driving I'd go for a CEC................................
[Edited on 3/7/08 by mikeb]
Not undriveable no, just not as much fun but then again my Zetec Tiger was no different. I was getting passed by caravans for gawds sake in one
downpour and any faster had me starting to aquaplane with the wide tyres and comparatively low weight.
I prefer to look upon these cars as fair weather toys and wouldnt set out to drive it in rain really - fair comment??
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coozer
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 01:52 PM |
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CEC for me, BEC for you, I think 7.5K is achievable for both.
Cheapest way to get reverse is obviuosly a CEC, which by the way I would recommend.
Bike engines are for bikes, while BEC's are for girls who cant handle real power
and once agian
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 02:01 PM |
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Linky to Pistonheads
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richardh
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 02:27 PM |
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the thread (in the locostbuilders main section) has a thread saying "how much is it worth"
theres one there a guy wants to sell
FYI............................
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 02:30 PM |
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The CEC boys have certainly been more militant recently. Whilst BEC drivers seem to be a little more fair handed with comments - usually extolling the
benefits of BEC as apposed to ripping apart CEC owners.
shame
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stevebubs
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 02:39 PM |
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£7,5k should find you a very nice motor with a bit of hunting.
I know it's not a seven, but a friend sold a lovely Blade Fury for slightly less than this not so long ago.
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smart51
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 02:48 PM |
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BECs have lower torque than CECs so should be more driveable. The more torque you have, the more likely you are to overcome the grip of the tyres and
spin the wheels.
Driving in the rain means wheel spin if you put your foot down, which means room spin in a seven unless you're on top of it.
Wet weather gear on a seven is only shower proof at best. Get some wet weather over clothes and a helmet, or only go out when its nice, like the rest
of us.
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smart51
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 02:50 PM |
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BTW, £7500 is a reasonable budget. Shop around on eBay for parts or go to the shows and haggle. Recon the parts yourself, if you can.
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sucksqueezebangblow
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 03:11 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
The CEC boys have certainly been more militant recently. Whilst BEC drivers seem to be a little more fair handed with comments - usually extolling the
benefits of BEC as apposed to ripping apart CEC owners.
shame
They think that if they shout loud enough and often enough people will begin to believe them!
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YQUSTA
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 03:23 PM |
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WOW
i post log off drive home log on and all these replys.... thanks guys
I am now in a dilema with the pros and cons of both bec and cec
found what looks to be a nice cec on pistonheads
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/542265.htm
but am not sure now which to go for.
on the 1 hand i get what i need from the cec as mentioned in some of your posts
i.e. weather gear and reverse, on the other the bec idea appeals to me alot for the performance.
i supose if i could get the near bec performance with a cec it would be the best option, saves me having to do much work to the car when i buy it and
being without it whilst other work is being done in a workshop somewhere.
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cryoman1965
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 03:38 PM |
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That appears to be a good price and ticks the boxes for roof, screen and reverse. I believe that engine is pretty good also.
N
quote:
Originally posted by YQUSTA
WOW
i post log off drive home log on and all these replys.... thanks guys
I am now in a dilema with the pros and cons of both bec and cec
found what looks to be a nice cec on pistonheads
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/542265.htm
but am not sure now which to go for.
on the 1 hand i get what i need from the cec as mentioned in some of your posts
i.e. weather gear and reverse, on the other the bec idea appeals to me alot for the performance.
i supose if i could get the near bec performance with a cec it would be the best option, saves me having to do much work to the car when i buy it and
being without it whilst other work is being done in a workshop somewhere.
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 03:44 PM |
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If your not sure on power source to get, then just make sure you get a ride in both.
I jumped in a BEC and BLIMEY CHARLIE! I've never looked back.
Only you can decide what to get, having anyone else talk you into or out of either a CEC or BEC would be a crying shame.
Have a go and see what you prefer vs. what you can live with.
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YQUSTA
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 03:51 PM |
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good advice dangle
Anyone around the gloucester area with a bec or cec with near bec performance that would like to show off their car u2u me i would love a ride
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 04:02 PM |
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There is a Tiger B6 with screen and weather gear for sale somewhere - try the for sale section or ebay as it was on there too. That was way under
budget at £6k i think and he's a member here.
linky to the thread so click here
[Edited on 3/7/08 by Paul TigerB6]
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YQUSTA
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 04:26 PM |
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i think thats the 1 i looked at.
did some investigation and found the roll bar would need changing for the wet weather gear (not sure how hard that would be bolts or weld)
electric reverse was about £500 installed
new rear wing about £120
and the weather gear about £400
looks a nice motor
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darrens
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 06:02 PM |
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BEC to me seem to be too noisy (ear plugs def needed), clunky in driveability, and have no reverse unless you have ££££££
CEC can be civalised and bonkers, especially with a V8
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 3/7/08 at 06:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by darrens
BEC to me seem to be too noisy (ear plugs def needed
Switch ya hearing aid down then matey!!
BEC's are completely bonkers and the noise, sequential gearbox and total insanity are what makes them so attractive to many. To me its a toy and
i want it to be a thrill a second.
Only way is to decide what you want to use it for, get a run out in both BEC and CEC, and then once you are in a position to
know............................................................................ work out which bike engine you want 
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