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Cobra289

posted on 20/9/08 at 10:13 AM Reply With Quote
Body using SolidWorks

Hi,
I have develop some body works for a locost chassis.
I like the color "Deep Candy Apple Red" so that is the color that I have used.

It is a 100% build in SolidWorks, although working with surfaces in SW is difficult.

See if you like.





















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mr henderson

posted on 20/9/08 at 10:19 AM Reply With Quote
A stunning achievement.


How will the doors open?
Are those lights adequate?

John






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gavin174

posted on 20/9/08 at 10:31 AM Reply With Quote
absolulety stunning..

think the rear lights would fall fowl of sva requirements

possibly to far in fron outer edge of car





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Cobra289

posted on 20/9/08 at 10:32 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mr henderson
A stunning achievement.


How will the doors open?
Are those lights adequate?

John


Thanks for the compliment.

The door latch needs to be develop but I can say that I have a DAX cobra and the door goes open just by activating a latch at the inside of the car. Do no see any problem, lots of possibilities.

The light, lamps are adequate, they are the Hella's 50 mm modules, Not the HID bu just the halogen type.

The dimensions of the chassis are the same as the Haynes book of Chris Gibbs so it has a wide [outside the tubes] of 1118 mm

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Cobra289

posted on 20/9/08 at 10:53 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gavin174
absolulety stunning..

think the rear lights would fall fowl of sva requirements

possibly to far in fron outer edge of car


Thanks!

The rear lights units are located at the nex dimensions:
Outer unit center line is at 322 mm from the edge of the wheel mudguard.
Inner unit center line is at 516 mm from the same edge of mudguard.

So I think that there isn't a problem.

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McLannahan

posted on 20/9/08 at 11:08 AM Reply With Quote
Looks fantastic! Hats off to your skill in Solidworks!!






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blakep82

posted on 20/9/08 at 11:08 AM Reply With Quote
hella 50mm lights? where can i get them?





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posted on 20/9/08 at 11:12 AM Reply With Quote
Blimey! Schminky pinky!!!!
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Cobra289

posted on 20/9/08 at 11:12 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by McLannahan
Looks fantastic! Hats off to your skill in Solidworks!!


Thanks!
It is not so difficult, the problem is that you need to be persistent to get where you like.

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Cobra289

posted on 20/9/08 at 11:17 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
hella 50mm lights? where can i get them?


I don't know where are you located, but here is a link for information.
Hella 50 mm Modules http://www.rallylights.com/hella/50mm_modules.asp

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posted on 20/9/08 at 11:23 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by BenB
Blimey! Schminky pinky!!!!


Although I don't know what means your words [expressions], I thank you!

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Cobra289

posted on 20/9/08 at 11:51 AM Reply With Quote
At certain moment of the design I did open de door and the bonnet.
Just for the looks and to see if there are no interference.

The gearbox MT75 was borrowed from member hellbent345 [Thanks again]



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posted on 20/9/08 at 11:56 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra289
quote:
Originally posted by BenB
Blimey! Schminky pinky!!!!


Although I don't know what means your words [expressions], I thank you!

Regards,
Cobra289


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designer

posted on 20/9/08 at 01:11 PM Reply With Quote
Stunning is the only word for your renderings.

How many yaers has it taken you to get this far with Solidworks?

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Cobra289

posted on 20/9/08 at 01:55 PM Reply With Quote
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Stunning is the only word for your renderings.

How many yaers has it taken you to get this far with Solidworks?


Years???? we can talk about months.
At the end of 2007 I did the first work with SW.
Prior to that I have used "LightWave" [nice for renderings but not accurate to construct parts].
If you know AutoCAD it will be not to difficult to jump into SW.

As and old man of 54 years, I can say that I have experiences with 3D software's as PDMS and PDS and that helps.

The important thing is, been persistence, try things ans change a lot.

The first steps of working with SW are easy, just make a 2D sketch and give an extrusion.

With surfaces you work with a lot of 3D sketches and some times are difficult to place at the right spot.

Here is a bunch of screen shots that shows how I did the surface of the body.









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[Edited on 22/9/08 by Cobra289]





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Ivan

posted on 20/9/08 at 02:19 PM Reply With Quote
Brilliant work - wish I had patience to develop skills to your level.






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irvined

posted on 20/9/08 at 03:50 PM Reply With Quote
I love it! The whole hot-rod look in general works, I also really like the front lights.





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Cobra289

posted on 20/9/08 at 04:01 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ivan
Brilliant work - wish I had patience to develop skills to your level.


Thanks!
Remember "Patience" is the cheapest item in a "Locost" build.

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mr henderson

posted on 20/9/08 at 04:05 PM Reply With Quote
Supposing you wanted to actually build the car, what would be the steps you would use to create the moulds?

John






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Cobra289

posted on 20/9/08 at 04:11 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by irvined
I love it! The whole hot-rod look in general works, I also really like the front lights.


Hi!
Thanks!
Get to that shape [idea] was the dificult part of the design.
In particular because to work with surfaces you need to plan a lot, how to do it.

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Cobra289

posted on 20/9/08 at 04:34 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mr henderson
Supposing you wanted to actually build the car, what would be the steps you would use to create the moulds?

John


There are three ways of doing, and all depends of the budget.

- The expensive way is the build a buck in a 5 axis CNC machine.
This way you will get the mold for fabrication of a large series of body's.

- If you want to make a mold, [that you can make corrections and additions] so that you can pull a series of 10 bodies, than you need to work with wooden sections and cover them with a negative layer of GRP that would be the mold.

- When you plan to make "one-off" [cheap solution for the locost spirit] you make sections [say every 200 mm] than you cut it from 10 mm plywood [all ready with the support strategy at the chassis]
Then you put the PU of or PVC foam of 6 or 10 mm, between the frames, grind or shave it to your taste and put some layers of epoxy with carbon fibers or other type of fibers. Needs to say that you need to use a Peel-ply layer to get the nice outer surface.
The inner side of the foam and wooden ribs, should be also cover with a layer of GRP.
The tail-line [largest curvature] needs to be done by thicker PU to get the shape.

After having the shape [basic] you go further with cutting the doors and bonnet an all the holes or recesses that you like to have. [2 mm gap would be wonderful]

Those parts you need to have some edges, that you can add at this stage.

As you can see from the pictures, the surfaces are easy to shape, even in aluminum [with some craftsman level] The most bended [two directions] part would be the rear panel .

So the pocket would decide the method to use.
Believe me, the shape as been keep that way, just to be easy to build.

I hope that you can understand my explanations.

Regards,
Cobra289

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Cobra289

posted on 20/9/08 at 04:49 PM Reply With Quote
Hi,
This picture will illustrate how difficult or easiest, is the basic shape of the body.

The front lamp niche is just an oval pipe that would be layered after the main body is done.

See also the corner area between the top surface and the vertical surface.

I hope that this clears-up a bit my explanation.



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Triton

posted on 20/9/08 at 07:47 PM Reply With Quote
Wicked looking body design mate, think you should make that.

Mark





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Cobra289

posted on 20/9/08 at 08:00 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Triton
Wicked looking body design mate, think you should make that.

Mark

Thanks!
I hope that my son will do the work.
Just now I have posted pictures in blue at the Haynes forum.

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Cobra289

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Triton

posted on 20/9/08 at 08:07 PM Reply With Quote
An alternative body for the Locost, you have to make it.

Looks cool in Blue but what would it look like in my colour of the month.....pink?





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