Lightning
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| posted on 2/10/08 at 12:06 PM |
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Engine for new bec project
I have seen before on this site many engine figures but doing a search cant find too much.
I am going to order a spire GTR and am considering what engine to use. At the moment I am swaying towards a later ZX12R. Hayabuasa and ZX14 could be
used but not convinced that the extra cost is justified.
Anyone have the power and torque figures to hand?
Incidently my old Tiger with Fireblade was seen the other day with a very late Fireblade engine having been fitted went well apparently till over
revved on going down the gears shedding a rod...ooops
No car engines nead apply :-)
Steve
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 2/10/08 at 12:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Lightning
No car engines nead apply :-)
Well, i wont be contributing here then 
[Edited on 2-10-08 by speedyxjs]
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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MikeCapon
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| posted on 2/10/08 at 12:23 PM |
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I will. This is what was said about the bike:
With this much power and torque (Motorcycle Online's published dyno chart showed nearly 165 horsepower at the wheel, coupled with a peak of 92
foot/pounds of torque -- more than 75 foot/pounds all the way from 4,000 to 11,000 rpm) you have some sense of being a flea on the back of a
well-behaved, but vigorous, bull rhino. It is an intoxicating feeling, to say the least.
ETA That's a 2002 model.
[Edited on 2/10/08 by MikeCapon]
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Lightning
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| posted on 2/10/08 at 03:20 PM |
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Thanks , what is the zx1400?
Steve
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MikeCapon
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| posted on 2/10/08 at 03:36 PM |
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The ZX 14 Ninja is the American name for the ZZR 1400 here in Europe.
Dyno test figures (Superbike mag)
168.6 BHP @ 9300rpm
104.7 lb/ft @ 7000rpm
for comparison a Hayabusa tested at the same time (conditions + dyno)
183.2 BHP @ 9400 rpm
109.6 lb/ft @7100 rpm
These are rear wheel figures I believe
Cheers,
Mike
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paublo999
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| posted on 2/10/08 at 04:41 PM |
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brand new zzr1400 in an mnr mapped to 161 bhp and 96lb, torque was lower than expected but power closer to the mark. All figures actual dyno figures
at rear wheels.
This included a cat and leaky exhaust end can.
Take most power figures with a pinch of salt, get as many demo runs in actual cars as possible then decide
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zilspeed
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| posted on 2/10/08 at 05:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Lightning
I have seen before on this site many engine figures but doing a search cant find too much.
I am going to order a spire GTR and am considering what engine to use. At the moment I am swaying towards a later ZX12R. Hayabuasa and ZX14 could be
used but not convinced that the extra cost is justified.
Anyone have the power and torque figures to hand?
Incidently my old Tiger with Fireblade was seen the other day with a very late Fireblade engine having been fitted went well apparently till over
revved on going down the gears shedding a rod...ooops
No car engines nead apply :-)
I have a friend with an MK GTR for sale.
He wants rid and really would not be hard to deal with.
Think in the order of £4,000.
That's with a ZZR1200 engine.
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mad-butcher
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| posted on 2/10/08 at 05:37 PM |
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At one stage when martin keenan had the project I was considering buying one, but changed my mind when spire took over the project.
The reason was when martin came up with the concept to replace the sadly missed GT1, it was fitted with a modifed dif (no case no crown wheel or
pinnion) but a sprocket fitted to enable chain drive, I've forgotten what this type set up is called, so by changing sprockets you could alter
the gearing to suit your needs, unfortunately the version I have seen now uses a sierra diff with a very short prop and the engine mounted sideways,
this means to me either paying out for a rather expensive 3.14 diff or sticking to what is readily availiable where as before I could have acheived
the 3.14 ratio with a £30 sprocket.and possibly having to buy a sump baffle
just my opinion, no doubt someone will be along to shoot me down
Tony
[Edited on 2/10/08 by mad-butcher]
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alfasudsprint
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| posted on 2/10/08 at 07:09 PM |
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Ive got a 954 blade if anyones interested (not what you were looking for Lightning I know but...).
no time to fit in place of x flow!
Tim
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 2/10/08 at 09:08 PM |
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pretty much a match made in heaven
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zilspeed
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| posted on 2/10/08 at 09:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mad-butcher
At one stage when martin keenan had the project I was considering buying one, but changed my mind when spire took over the project.
The reason was when martin came up with the concept to replace the sadly missed GT1, it was fitted with a modifed dif (no case no crown wheel or
pinnion) but a sprocket fitted to enable chain drive, I've forgotten what this type set up is called, so by changing sprockets you could alter
the gearing to suit your needs, unfortunately the version I have seen now uses a sierra diff with a very short prop and the engine mounted sideways,
this means to me either paying out for a rather expensive 3.14 diff or sticking to what is readily availiable where as before I could have acheived
the 3.14 ratio with a £30 sprocket.and possibly having to buy a sump baffle
just my opinion, no doubt someone will be along to shoot me down
Tony
[Edited on 2/10/08 by mad-butcher]
The one I'm talking about has transverse engine and chain drive.
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