big_wasa
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Have you lot seen this ?
Have you lot seen this ?
I was only saying to a guy Sunday that I wished I had saved up for a WF kit 
Then again I think I will stick with my own welding. 
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blakep82
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 05:49 PM |
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nope. can't see it now either. link don't work
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cryoman1965
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 06:00 PM |
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Wot he said
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tegwin
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 06:01 PM |
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FAIL!
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Would the last person who leaves the country please switch off the lights and close the door!
www.verticalhorizonsmedia.tv
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coozer
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 06:07 PM |
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Works for me...
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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locoR1
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 06:08 PM |
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Looks like the WSCC site is down! I saw the post last night, shocking how a chassis could fail like that and even more shocking how the poor guy was /
is being treated by westfield.
Edited to say its working now
[Edited on 23/10/08 by locoR1]
 
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blakep82
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 06:13 PM |
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works now hmmm.... those cuts are far too clean... looks like the chassis' made of bits!
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Peteff
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 06:17 PM |
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It looks more like a materials problem than workmanship but they are treating him rather shoddily.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 06:25 PM |
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If you have only read the first page or so, read on as the front of the chassis has now failed in a big way
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 06:37 PM |
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tha is seriously bad,and i dont recon much on the "repair" of the back end
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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joneh
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 06:38 PM |
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I only saw Barry Ashcrofts avatar! Yay for boobies!
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MikeR
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 06:56 PM |
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Oh - My - God!
that's incredibly scary for the failures when driving and the way the poor bloke has been treated. He tried to do his best and give them a
chance and has been dropped on from a large height.
(reading between the lines I suspect he was miss sold a race chassis, but the first failure should have been repaired properly and then westfield
should have given him a strongly worded letter suggesting he strips and checks the rest of the car with repairs being FOC if he returned a bare
chassis & kept quiet whilst they investigated.)
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Werner Van Loock
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 07:01 PM |
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A chassis should never fail like thatn this is material failure or bad craftmanship
http://www.clubstylus.be
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Dusty
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 07:02 PM |
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That chassis is scrap. Needs taking apart for full assessment. Can't believe the problem is now four months old and it's still not sorted.
Love the MD showing what a good firm they are by admitting to 42 new fans, 7 engines, 2 alternators and 38 sumps replaced free this year. And whats
with the doubts over the warranty if you track the car? Makes me feel I get better quality down at my local scrappy!
[Edited on 23/10/08 by Dusty]
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Simon
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 07:03 PM |
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If that was me, and I had to put up with that attaitude, my next visit would be to a solicitor/MIRA/STATUS etc etc.
ATB
Simon
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lsdweb
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 07:03 PM |
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Worrying!
I'd be tempted to take it to Caterham for their views......
[Edited on 23/10/08 by lsdweb]
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TOO BADD
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 07:07 PM |
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Hmm... wonder if the chassis had caused a death in the crap condition it is, and how Westfield would have replied then.
I would first be booking a seat at my solicitor's and then booking an appointment with a vehicle examiner.
NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE comes to mind.
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balidey
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 07:14 PM |
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I'm not commenting on that particular failure, but something to note:
My company buys steel to a BS grade. We can get bad batches. its always the cheap stuff, often from the far east thats the worst. Yet its all
'the same grade'. How the chinese can take our good quality steel and turn it into the poo they churn out I don't know. But I have
tests to prove it. So, saying its always been the same grade may be true, but I bet to save a few quid they found another supplier of steel.
Just my 2pence worth.
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 07:17 PM |
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There is I believe a an arguable point of law that the 'guarantee' period should reflect the length of time that an item should be
reasonably expected to last with regard to the value of the item. ie a new television for £20 pound you would reasonably expect the set to last a
year, however, the same size of television for £600 you would expect to last more than 10 years. Therefore the 'Guarantee' period with the
manufacturer should reflect this. On this basis I think that the manufacturer has no leg to stand on with regard to this chassis.
But it is very worrying.
Beware of the Goldfish in the tulip mines. The ONLY defence against them is smoking peanut butter sandwiches.
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JoelP
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 07:18 PM |
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scary stuff!
WSC ltd should have loaned him a demonstrator and kept the car for proper investigation. Long term solution would be a turn key car AND all the parts
off his car returning, with the old chassis being sent for analysis. That bodge repair looks like something i would've done!
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NeilP
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 07:22 PM |
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That first repair is shocking! I could do better with my little tank and I'm utter rubbish at welding.
They have clearly been using a lower grade steel - brittle fractures have propogated from the welds in both instances due to the heat of the original
welding causing structural damage to the steel.
Was speaking to a mate of mine only today who informed me that the suspension turret on his westy gave out a few weeks ago - I'm going to make
sure I flag this to him.
They have a big problem brewing methinks as they sell a fair few units...
If you pay peanuts...
Mentale, yar? Yar, mentale!
Drive it like you stole it!
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miikae
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 08:17 PM |
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Totally Shocking in every aspect .
I have seen this sub-standard steel problem many years ago when it was imported due to UK supply problems , the steel was very brittle and would
fracture easily , the sheet steel would ruin the guilitine blade in no time .
The chassis builder's would have known all about this as they would have mentioned it to the powers above , as its harder to work with , plus
sometimes just the look of the bare steel is enough of a give away of its condition as it can look very blue .
I just hope that Paul gets a satisfactury outcome on this .
Mike
If it can be done it i will be done .
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GeorgeM
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 08:20 PM |
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They don't repair them like they used to!!
40 years ago those gaps would have been
filled with newspaper and covered with a
generous helping of underseal- good as
new then
Seriously though - OMG
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 09:21 PM |
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FM!
I'm with Simon on this one.
An absolute effing disgrace.
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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motorcycle_mayhem
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| posted on 23/10/08 at 09:22 PM |
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Looks like Westfield need to (and will) assertain the what/where and the how, now that this is very much open. The gauge of the steel (race or road)
is possibly a thing that springs to my mind.
I've re-engineered the rear (wasn't happy with the one-chassis fits all around the diff. - mines a Freelander on some Sierra mounting
adapter plates - so in effect hopefully obviated any failures on that tube).
It's not good though, but then my chassis is easily inspected since the powdercoat wasn't terribly good............... I won't go
there, sorry.
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