Alan B
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| posted on 20/7/08 at 12:57 PM |
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Working on the gear change
Some pics of what I did on my gear change...
The cables are standard Honda, terminated on a bracket behind the bulkhead then extended by tubes...pretty self-explantory really.
 
GC3
 
GC2
 
gc1
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 20/7/08 at 01:51 PM |
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What did you do for the rest of the afternoon?
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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Alan B
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| posted on 21/7/08 at 12:04 AM |
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Cut my grass...
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rumplitter
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| posted on 21/7/08 at 08:18 AM |
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Impressive!
have you any pic's at the gearbox end?
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/upload/MiniMojoProject.JPG
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Alan B
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| posted on 21/7/08 at 12:02 PM |
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The gearbox end is pretty much standard. but here you go......(yep, washers and split pins not in yet)
 
GC4
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TheGecko
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| posted on 21/7/08 at 12:18 PM |
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I'd been intending to get longer cables made for mine (I think that's what Kurt did too) but, gosh that's a nice solution Alan.
Congrats on the progress,
Dominic
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kb58
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| posted on 21/7/08 at 01:29 PM |
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Where's the gas tank going?
Mid-engine Locost - http://www.midlana.com
And the book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/midlana/paperback/product-21330662.html
Kimini - a tube-frame, carbon shell, Honda Prelude VTEC mid-engine Mini: http://www.kimini.com
And its book -
http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/kimini-how-to-design-and-build-a-mid-engine-sports-car-from-scratch/paperback/product-4858803.html
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Alan B
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| posted on 21/7/08 at 01:51 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by kb58
Where's the gas tank going?
Behind the driver, between the passengers with a metal cover/firewall over it...you can just about see it on my avatar.
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Alan B
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| posted on 21/7/08 at 01:57 PM |
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Thanks, Dominic.
I did look at and actually buy longer cables, which would need adapting at each end...so thinking was if had to design a shifter mechanism (because I
did not want to use the Honda item) I may as well just keep the standard cables and extend with rods. As much as can be tested so far it seems quite
positive.
Alan
quote:
Originally posted by TheGecko
I'd been intending to get longer cables made for mine (I think that's what Kurt did too) but, gosh that's a nice solution Alan.
Congrats on the progress,
Dominic
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kb58
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| posted on 21/7/08 at 03:16 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Alan B
I did look at and actually buy longer cables, which would need adapting at each end...
I just bought cables with threaded ends and screwed on standard rod-ends, with spacers to fit the Honda shifter and tranny.
Mid-engine Locost - http://www.midlana.com
And the book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/midlana/paperback/product-21330662.html
Kimini - a tube-frame, carbon shell, Honda Prelude VTEC mid-engine Mini: http://www.kimini.com
And its book -
http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/kimini-how-to-design-and-build-a-mid-engine-sports-car-from-scratch/paperback/product-4858803.html
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Alan B
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| posted on 21/7/08 at 03:26 PM |
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Yep, simple enough....rod ends are our friends... I definitely could have used longer cables...maybe next time...and you know there'll be a
next time..LOL
quote:
Originally posted by kb58
quote:
Originally posted by Alan B
I did look at and actually buy longer cables, which would need adapting at each end...
I just bought cables with threaded ends and screwed on standard rod-ends, with spacers to fit the Honda shifter and tranny.
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sgraber
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| posted on 21/7/08 at 03:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by kb58
quote:
Originally posted by Alan B
I did look at and actually buy longer cables, which would need adapting at each end...
I just bought cables with threaded ends and screwed on standard rod-ends, with spacers to fit the Honda shifter and tranny.
That's very similar to what my intentions are with the Ecotec cables for the 2.2L I have, those are long enough to terminate at the firewall
just like yours. I was going to route them underneat the oil pan,then under the fuel cell. Passing them into the cabin through holes drilled in the
lower 1.5" chassis cross tube. My thought was to reuse run all-thread up to the GM shifter assy. Yours is very TRICK! I like it!
KB, didn't you have a heck of a time finding cables without slop in the housing? Which ones did you end up using in the end? You solved that
problem by purchasing really good cables right?
Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/
"Quickness through lightness"
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Alan B
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| posted on 21/7/08 at 03:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by sgraber
..........................That's very similar to what my intentions are with the Ecotec cables for the 2.2L I have, those are long enough to
terminate at the firewall just like yours. I was going to route them underneat the oil pan,then under the fuel cell. Passing them into the cabin
through holes drilled in the lower 1.5" chassis cross tube. My thought was to reuse run all-thread up to the GM shifter assy. Yours is very
TRICK! I like it!
KB, didn't you have a heck of a time finding cables without slop in the housing? Which ones did you end up using in the end? You solved that
problem by purchasing really good cables right?
Hey Steve, up until now we managed to get around this issue by using MR2 powertrains.....we knew one day this would have to be addressed.....
[Edited on 21/7/08 by Alan B]
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sgraber
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| posted on 21/7/08 at 03:46 PM |
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Yep! And KB's been there already. The cable quality will have a lot to do with how good the shift feel is. a micron of slop translates to a mile
of slop in the shifter at the hand. Or so it would feel.
Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/
"Quickness through lightness"
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Alan B
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| posted on 21/7/08 at 03:59 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by sgraber
Yep! And KB's been there already. The cable quality will have a lot to do with how good the shift feel is. a micron of slop translates to a mile
of slop in the shifter at the hand. Or so it would feel.
I'm sure that's true, if not a little exagerated..LOL All I can compare with is my MR2/meerkat set-up and it feels at least as positive
as that. The only extra thing I'm going to do is to spring bias the gate into the center position (2-3) as Honda did with their shifter.
Alan
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kb58
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| posted on 21/7/08 at 07:58 PM |
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I ordered them from www.push-pull.com
The place is great to deal with; this is all they do, though being in the states doesn't help many of you. (which is hardly ever true, you
people from the Land of Sports Car that I'm so jealous of...)
Yeah the "feature" I didn't care for was that while they're well made, the inner cable, liner, and inner sheath are separate
from the outer sheath and wrap. There's a bit of side-to-side motion between them, which is a non-issue if you use the cables without curves...
but who does that?
What happens is that every bend it goes around, the inner sheath can shift side-to-side a tiny bit, introducing a small amount of slop into the
system.
That said, I guess the human mind's quite adept at relearning things because after about a week I didn't notice it. I'm using
something very similar on the next car.
[Edited on 7/23/08 by kb58]
Mid-engine Locost - http://www.midlana.com
And the book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/midlana/paperback/product-21330662.html
Kimini - a tube-frame, carbon shell, Honda Prelude VTEC mid-engine Mini: http://www.kimini.com
And its book -
http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/kimini-how-to-design-and-build-a-mid-engine-sports-car-from-scratch/paperback/product-4858803.html
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Alan B
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| posted on 23/7/08 at 11:47 AM |
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KB...I assume you actually meant....http://www.push-pull.com/
Yep. agreed very useful site...also....http://www.midwestcontrol.com/
seem very good too.....personally I use....http://www.mcmaster.com/
quite a lot.
None of which will help our UK friends...except perhaps midwest who have a UK branch/dealer.
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TheGecko
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| posted on 23/7/08 at 12:17 PM |
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Since we're doing a roll call of suppliers, two Australian possibilities are: Flexible Drive Agencies and
Consolidated Wire
Dominic
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kb58
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| posted on 23/7/08 at 01:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Alan B
KB...I assume you actually meant....[url=http://www.push-pull.com/]
Dang, right... fixed!
And I second using mcmaster. They have nearly anything, even weld-in threaded tube ends!
[Edited on 7/23/08 by kb58]
Mid-engine Locost - http://www.midlana.com
And the book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/midlana/paperback/product-21330662.html
Kimini - a tube-frame, carbon shell, Honda Prelude VTEC mid-engine Mini: http://www.kimini.com
And its book -
http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/kimini-how-to-design-and-build-a-mid-engine-sports-car-from-scratch/paperback/product-4858803.html
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bram boekestein
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| posted on 8/10/08 at 11:41 AM |
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Could you post some dimensions for this:
gc1
And why do you have those rose joints at the end of the rod's.
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kb58
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| posted on 8/10/08 at 01:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bram boekesteinAnd why do you have those rose joints at the end of the rod's.
They're needed at both ends because if the rods are off any amount it'll bind.
Mid-engine Locost - http://www.midlana.com
And the book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/midlana/paperback/product-21330662.html
Kimini - a tube-frame, carbon shell, Honda Prelude VTEC mid-engine Mini: http://www.kimini.com
And its book -
http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/kimini-how-to-design-and-build-a-mid-engine-sports-car-from-scratch/paperback/product-4858803.html
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