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Author: Subject: Help wanted. Aj30 / Duratec 30
big_wasa

posted on 21/7/19 at 02:03 PM Reply With Quote
Help wanted. Aj30 / Duratec 30

Help wanted,

Any one local to the Spalding ish area + 20 mile radius got a bare Jaguar Aj30 or/and a Ford Duratec 30 engine ?

I just want to see if my Rx8 adapter fits your engine. It does not fit my Ford engine well two bolts do.

It was cut specifically for the Aj30 and I have been told it fits. The Duratec 30 should be the same block as the jaguar ancillaries are even stamped ford.

Hereís hoping

[Edited on 21/7/19 by big_wasa]

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big_wasa

posted on 21/7/19 at 02:10 PM Reply With Quote
with the centring dowels removed I am still way off. I donít see how I can get the first motion shaft centred.






[Edited on 21/7/19 by big_wasa]

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r1_pete

posted on 21/7/19 at 07:58 PM Reply With Quote
I read your post on the RX8 box page..

Couldnít Jonathon send you another to check, it looks like yours has moved during production, I canít see the jag and ford blocks having such small differences, all that would do is increase production costs..

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big_wasa

posted on 21/7/19 at 08:38 PM Reply With Quote
Hi Pete,

I really canít see how there is a difference between them either. I would think they where all built at the same plant.

Being laser cut I canít see how there is a production error ? To be honest I would be surprised if there was more than one batch of these cut.

I could do with finding some one local to save the postage but thanks I will ask.

My love of these things has about run out.

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r1_pete

posted on 21/7/19 at 08:46 PM Reply With Quote
I know the feeling, I acquired enough MT75 parts to build a 2wd box, and a mazda 6 speed which Iíd agreed to sell, then some swine stole them, presumably for scrap....

Do your engines have an intermediate splash plate? Getting (old of one of those would help.

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big_wasa

posted on 21/7/19 at 08:49 PM Reply With Quote
I donít remember this engine having one, the jag does.
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CosKev3

posted on 22/7/19 at 08:18 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by r1_pete


Do your engines have an intermediate splash plate? Getting (old of one of those would help.


I've offered to post one to Warren off my AJ30

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r1_pete

posted on 22/7/19 at 08:24 AM Reply With Quote
Cool, I recon thats a good step in the right direction, hope it works out...
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40inches

posted on 22/7/19 at 08:46 AM Reply With Quote
Probably not help much, but here is a flipped photo of the Getrag box. The bolt holes seem to be the same, even the small ones around the starter.
I am with Pete on this one, such a small difference in manufacture wouldn't make sense.
Could the scaling during the laser cutting be off? Would only need a very small percentage, probably less than 1%?

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big_wasa

posted on 22/7/19 at 09:46 AM Reply With Quote
It's not looking likely for a local engine so I would be grateful of the loan of your dust cover kev.

Thanks Warren

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RWD Focus

posted on 22/7/19 at 05:43 PM Reply With Quote
The one i bought fit the holes round the bellhousing but the starter motor was too close and jammed into the ring gear. Bought from same place as yours

[Edited on 22/7/19 by RWD Focus]





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big_wasa

posted on 22/7/19 at 06:30 PM Reply With Quote
Was that a jag or ford engine ?

I could happily live with just moving the starter but if I move the others I wonít know if the first motion shaft is centred.

[Edited on 22/7/19 by big_wasa]

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RWD Focus

posted on 22/7/19 at 06:53 PM Reply With Quote
Jag engine from an s type.
Im at Wakefield and the engine will be out again by the weekend. Your welcome to come over and try if it helps.





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CosKev3

posted on 22/7/19 at 07:00 PM Reply With Quote
I had to oval the holes in the starter motor to get it working properly
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RWD Focus

posted on 22/7/19 at 07:28 PM Reply With Quote
CosKev yes that's what i will need to do. Also got to cut a big lump out of the bell housing to let the starter fit





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r1_pete

posted on 22/7/19 at 08:20 PM Reply With Quote
Its odd they dont fit, mine fitted the Cosworth lump fine, just need to get an rx8 box now...
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40inches

posted on 23/7/19 at 07:46 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
I had to oval the holes in the starter motor to get it working properly

Strange! The Ford variant has a smaller diameter ring gear than the Jag, that would point to the adapter plate
being for the Ford engine????

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big_wasa

posted on 23/7/19 at 03:59 PM Reply With Quote
Mr rwd, thatís a very generous offer and exactly what I am after, But nearer but thanks for the offer.


Iíve decided I am done with it. Iíve got to finish the exhausts as I have shed loads invested in them. I will then brake it up.


Cheers for the help guys

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40inches

posted on 23/7/19 at 04:50 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by big_wasa
Mr rwd, thatís a very generous offer and exactly what I am after, But nearer but thanks for the offer.


Iíve decided I am done with it. Iíve got to finish the exhausts as I have shed loads invested in them. I will then brake it up.


Cheers for the help guys


Wouldn't you be better to get the splash plate from Kev?
If it turns out to be the adaptor that's out, you could get that changed?

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big_wasa

posted on 30/7/19 at 11:33 AM Reply With Quote
I just thought I would add a follow up.

A big thank you to kev who sent me out the jag plate

It's a perfect fit with the near side dowel moved to the jag position. So with the exception of some of the bottom bolts in the fwd sump ( to be expected ) the Ford and Jag engines are the same bolt pattern.

The fault is with the adapter plate and it's going back for assessment.

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