Volvorsport
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| posted on 25/6/06 at 10:34 PM |
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think outside the box guys !!!!
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus
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russbost
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| posted on 25/6/06 at 10:36 PM |
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Why doesn't anyone ever think of the Vauxhall 3.0 V6 as fitted to the Omega MV6 - 210bhp as standard, tonnes of torque & cheap as
chips
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headlights, indicators, mirrors etc, best prices in the UK! Take a look at http://www.furoreproducts.co.uk/ or find more parts on Ebay, user names
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Don't forget Stainless Steel Braided brake hoses, made to your exact requirements in any of around 16 colours.
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ned
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| posted on 26/6/06 at 06:37 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by russbost
Why doesn't anyone ever think of the Vauxhall 3.0 V6 as fitted to the Omega MV6 - 210bhp as standard, tonnes of torque & cheap as
chips
there is one in ireland, will see if i can find some pics
knew i'd seen it somewhere:
http://www.nise7ens.net/Zoom/ClubRunAug05/DSCF0601Zoom.JPG
http://www.nise7ens.net/Zoom/cmaug04/JMckillopV6_engine.jpg
http://www.nise7ens.net/Zoom/cmaug04/JMckillopV6_engine2.jpg
http://www.nise7ens.net/Zoom/cmaug04/JMckillopV6_front.jpg
[Edited on 26/6/06 by ned]
beware, I've got yellow skin
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bimbleuk
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| posted on 26/6/06 at 11:13 AM |
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V8 -> Chevy LS1
V6 -> 3.0L Duratec
V4 -> 3SGE BEAMS VVTi
The one I'm about to build though is a "silvertop" 20V 4AGE with GZE 8.9:1 pistons. To be supercharged with a Rotrex C30-84 to 12
PSI and aiming for 250HP @ 8000 RPM.
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Slaine
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| posted on 19/7/06 at 03:03 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by PAUL FISHER
Mazda RX7 turbo,very light and compact,and very tunable.
...and a bit of a bugger to fit because the turbo is in the way of the steering link, and the intake manifold is a bit high for the bonnet. Other
than that, there's lots of space under the bonnet, so I filled it up with some 'toys'.
http://seven.dfx.co.za/index.asp?Content=28
http://seven.dfx.co.za/index.asp?Content=33
Hope to drive mine before the end of the year.
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cheater_5
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| posted on 19/7/06 at 04:23 AM |
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best engine, personally i rekon the 20v 4age is a must. i mean 165hp from a stock 1600 cc engine is just insane. its also a lil bit lighter than the
ca18 otherwise that'd be good. but yea 20v 4age would rule. Thats why we gona build one with it
and yea i do agree with saying do not put a v8 into a locost. arnt these things ment to corner more than anything else. and also be super fast with
the lightest possible setup.
By putting dirty big v8 in there you gna loose so much cornering ability. just my two cents tho.
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locostv8
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| posted on 19/7/06 at 07:00 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by cheater_5
...and yea i do agree with saying do not put a v8 into a locost. arnt these things ment to corner more than anything else. and also be super fast with
the lightest possible setup.
By putting dirty big v8 in there you gna loose so much cornering ability. just my two cents tho.
Yeah gotta agree BUT. building 6.5 ltr V8 (500+hp), steel block, alloy heads, EFI, roller cam and rockers, dry sump, 5 speed, IRS with alloy center,
13" brakes front & rear, 245 40 17 & 315 35 17 using nearly all production parts and dry weight of approx 1400lb
The initial eng will be 5.8 and the car will use all production parts (except cam) but only be 400 hp and about 50 lb heavier. Total build cost with
351 should be about 3500 US.
[Edited on 19/7/06 by locostv8]
http://wrangler.rutgers.edu/gallery2/v/7slotgrille/hssss/
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NS Dev
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| posted on 19/7/06 at 12:22 PM |
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I think you need to put some sort of financial limitation on the question.
Following that you need an engine who's torque curve is tailored to the traction characteristics of the car, which rules out very steep torque
curves (i.e. most lower revving v8's and most turbos)
For ultimate performance with great driveability in a 600ish kg car, a 240-260hp 2.0 nat aspirated 4 cyl engine will take some beating, but a v6 2.5
or 3 ltr may be a pretty good alternative, and sound a lot nicer too.
Basically take your pick from all the major maufacturers offerings, thay all have pros and cons. Duratec is pretty good, as is the toyota engine, as
are the nissan motors, as is the little heard of but awesome Lexus-Yamaha 2.0 (fitted to jap market lexus IS200's)
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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coozer
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| posted on 19/7/06 at 07:36 PM |
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Well as mentioned, you can't whack a V8. As long as its a Chevy of course.
Anyone interested in bring one in from the good 'ol US of A??
Look here:
http://www.high-performance-engines.com/highperfengines.html
I'm very tempted... 
Forgot to mention! The current Toyota Corolla T-Sport has a nice V-Tech Yamaha engine in it. 180 BHP as standard if my memory serves me....
[Edited on 19/7/06 by coozer]
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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RichyMkIndy
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| posted on 19/7/06 at 11:22 PM |
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i agree with the 1600 4AGE if its true about 160bhp stock - it must have been designed by someone that knows there stuff. That would be what i would
start off with if i had the money
It depends how trick you are in fabrications. if you gonna fit a 4AG then surly u need custom bell housings and stuff where as with duratec, zetec and
YB you wouldnt(i think)..
to be honest the bike engine is surely the ultimate engine most closely tailored to such a light car so you have the optimimum already???
having a 4 cyl engine car will just pretty similar to the bike engine car maybe heavyer but more torque
SO BUILD THE V8!!
Its the same weight as a pinto so stick TB's on it with mega squirt and dry sump it getting it real low in the car - i think this way u will end
up with two totally different cars rather than two similar ones which one you will like less and prob not drive much
itsa good challenege getting a V8 in too
Personally i dont think turbos are gonna drive well
oh yeah !!
ive just thought. in jap they do a 1600 4AGE with super charger as standard ! its the old Robot looking MR2 mk1 G-Limited or SC
look it up on the net - get a kit for your 4age or import one from jap??
PS: still go for the V8 to get 2 totoally different cars
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02GF74
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| posted on 20/7/06 at 08:11 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by cheater_5
and yea i do agree with saying do not put a v8 into a locost. arnt these things ment to corner more than anything else. and also be super fast with
the lightest possible setup.
By putting dirty big v8 in there you gna loose so much cornering ability. just my two cents tho.
not sure those aare valid. rover v8 is alloy block and heads and is lighter than the 2.25 4 cylinder land rover engine. I am guess the pointo is
cast iron head and block of similar size and similar weight to the weight arument is not valid.
the v8 may be less tall too?
being more symetrical than a 4 cycl, weight distribution will be better.
I'm personally against a v8 or any engine that has exhaust on the driver's side due to noise, not a good reason I know.
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iank
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| posted on 20/7/06 at 08:18 AM |
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Yeah, Rover V8 weighs roughly the same as a pinto.
There was an article (I think) in totalkitcar by Dave Walker where he got 198BPH from a normally aspirated 1600 4age using throttle bodies.
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bimbleuk
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| posted on 20/7/06 at 03:32 PM |
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I've had numerous 4AGE engines and out the box the "blacktop" 20V is by far the best for a light seven style car. Mine has 153BHP
which is quite good for one. The earlier "silvertop" 20V is nearer 140BHP.
The 4AGZE supercharger is OK but to be honest the blower on it came from the ark. You'd be doing well to get more than 175BHP without spending a
lot of money.
To get over 200BHP from one I used a 7A 1800cc bottom end, GZE 16V flowed head and HKS 272 deg cams.
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