After my previous thread, it was suggested i to start a thread for IVA (and SVA) failures here to hopefully help people pre IVA avoid the same mistakes.

Visual aids would be helpful

[Edited on 13-2-10 by speedyxjs]

SVA Fail points:

Non standard steering wheel
Uncovered wires.
Untidy behind dash.
Main fail was dodgy brakes, ( Worn front discs) silly fail beause of trying to save £30



[Edited on 13/2/10 by dogwood]

Failed IVA on the following
Tiger Avon

Exterior projections
front wishbone mounts.
rear of headlamp bracket
fog lamp surround
rear of mount for twin hoops.
steering rack nuts (had a tifosi cover on these)
Brake performance
brake bias , had too much rear bias & not welded
I have twin master cylinders with bias bar, but had to replace front calipers night before
before due to leaking cylinder, so maybe needs more bleeding/ bias moving
Direction Indicators
side repeaters need moving from side of bodywork to edge of front wing due to failing rear visibility rules.

SVA Fail points

Emissions
Seat Belt Fixings
rear brakes needed reg valve

SVA Fail Points: (Same Place as Dogwood!)

Non Type Approved Steering Wheel (Although passed SVA retest with same Steering Wheel!!!)
Various lock nuts missing.
Tester couldnt see both sides of lower seat belt mountings, one side was fully welded other side only partially welded. (Couldnt see welded side)
Handbrake didnt pull enough (new shoes needed and unsticking the adjuster)
Uncovered wires (even only the last inch before connector)
Sharp edge around headlight mounting, more rubber trim needed.

For SVA at norwich I had to :-

Sort the fog switch as it decided not to light up on the day - wire come off the back.

Not enough radius on the dash - pull covering back and put foam underneath. which obviously fell out on the way home.

Forgot to put a nyloc nut on the lower colum where it joins the rack.

emmissions tweaked.

A couple of wires i had to cable tie up in he engine bay.

Didnt get a fail but bits i had to do while i was there to get the cert otherwise would have been a fail.

For SVA at Nottingham (23 March 2009)

I had to :-

Tweek the Emissions (too high)

The tester severely tested the security of the head lamp mountings and after he did this the head lamp aim was correct.

Cover sharp edges in the passenger footwell (Rivnuts and screws giving sharp edges)

Cover the sharp edge on the fuel cap to the rear which was unprotected by its recessing in the ali Fuel spill drain off.

Replace the foam insulator that I had fitted around front suspension parts as this foam was not acceptable to the tester, but the split heater hose that I replaced it with and cable tied on was.

Oh and my extra rear reflectors (created out of road side breakdown warning triangle, due to having mounted my lights to low (and discovering this the saturday afternoon before SVA on monday) also had sharp edges which needed to be dressed (and TBH still do, oops).

What's an SVA fail? Just had to tweak one headlight and adjust the brake bias slightly

This post can be improved if people had pictures of the fail bit as well.

Turned up late after working on the car all night and not remembering I needed the keys to the bastard thing till I was half way there...
FAILURE

They did have a look at my car though and didn't like my exhaust exit radius. Fixed this with a stainless steel ring from a chandlery and bonding it on with quick steel... Still there after 2000 miles and I'm not sure I could get it off. You would never know it wasn't supposed to be there.

Retest - passed!

[Edited on 13/2/10 by chasmon]

first time on a tiger avon

seat belt mounting bolts not marked us as 8.8 ton breaking strength.
emmisions way out even though they were spot on when i tested them the same day at my mates garage, never adjusted them and passed retest.
couple of loose bolts.
and a unsecured wire from battery.

retested a week later and passed.

notghing on the indy as i bought it built and only had to rebuild it twice now to get it just as i want it

SVA fails:
Emissions
Excessive smoke (head gasket)
Rear brakes inefficient (piston stuck by dust cover)
Interior edges on standard bike clocks
Edges on rear reflectors
Overhanging edges on scuttle
Non standard steering wheel
There were other bits but nothing of note that wasn't/couldn't be fixed in situ.

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Originally posted by rusty nuts
What's an SVA fail? Just had to tweak one headlight and adjust the brake bias slightly

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Details of my SVA failure points here:

http://www.danstuff.info/furyracerb24.htm

Mind you, it was for a Fury and one designed for racing at that, so much of it won't be applicable to road-going Locosts...

MK Indy (2007)

TOP mount for Seat belts to Low - main fail
Projections
Emmissions
Self Centering

my iva fails were the following

1.) Noise was 106db at 3700rpm

2.) i need a convex glass in the passenger mirror as the tester had to move his head too much to get the full range of view in that mirror

3.) my t pieces for the brake system were bolted to the chassis using riv nuts. this was deemed unacceptable as there is no locking device. i was advised to drill straight through the tube and use a bolt and nyloc nut on the end. all fixings/items on brake related systems must have a licking device!

4.) my roll bar back stays only had one bolt securing them. they either needed to be welded or have a minimum of two bolts.

5.) heat shrink and glued on rubber is deemed unacceptable for iva. any covering used must be equivalent to something a mass manufacturer would use. this meant i had to remove the heat shrink off the track rod ends which then failed (it was suggested that i used a caterham type item to cover these.)

6.) my universal joint on the steering was too close to the bulk head bearing meaning the collapsible mechanism wouldn't work adequately in an accident.

7.) speedo was out but was aloud to alter it at the time so it is now spot on.

8.) headlights were out but was aloud to align them.

9.) side indicators failed. not because of their position it was because they had the wrong e mark. the emark they had were for side markers not side indicators. the difference is that side markers have a lot narrower range of visibility than side indicators. you could see them from the back but the light emitted was not strong enough in the required direction.

Not IVA but my first Quebec Provincial inspection (which has all been corrected now):

No rear side position lights - this is the advantage of the Caterham lights - they have this built in.

No front position lights - those side mounted ones you see, and I have, don't count.

Left headlight U/S. Not earthed properly.

Transmission not bolted securely to the chassis. I had someone else put the engine in, and they didn't do up the bolts! They are hidden unless you have it on a hoist.

No cotter pins on track rod end bolts.

Wipers worked poorly.

No clutch switch for starter.

No daytime running lights. Apparently a simple switch you put on when your engine is running is not good enough. Has to be foolproof.

Brakes worked poorly. I had mounted the front calipers UPSIDE down! Yes, it was very dumb.

None,

Dash radius made him rub his chin and go "hmmm"

Just thought I'd post that to BUMP! this very useful thread.

Not a fail but minor adjustments allowed in the car park

Brake line running too close to steering column. Not rubbing but he wasnt happy one nylon pclip and one rivet, drill new hole, sorted

Forgot to put the locknut on the handbrake cable Doh!! let me put those on while it was on the lift.

Cover some nuts in passenger footwell.

Sharp edge under bonnet could chafe wires, rubber trim glued on

Bolts for roll bar socket loose. Tightened

One or 2 other really minor things which I cant even rememeber now.

changes checked and certificate issued

Locost at Mitcham.

3 fails.

1. Forgot to take the photos of the covered lower seatbelt mounts with me. That's what comes of staying up all night before the test finishing the car. (Along with Ned and my girlfriend!).

2. Indicator bulb failed enroute- didn't have a spare. Couldn't even find a spare for sale, had to replace indicators!!!

3. Front indicators too low. The last minute extensions I fitted to the car were of steel tube and were heavy enough to cause the indicators to droop below the legal level!

That's all!


They let me adjust headlamps during test.

They let me adjust emissions during the test.

What was a bit embarassing was I'd forgotten to put the chassis number on. So he said he couldn't test me. So I ran round the industrial estate like a maniac until I found a garage that'd lend me some stamps and did it in the SVA test station!

So with only those 3 things, having failed Wednesday AM I rebooked for Friday PM. I didn't even have to put the car in the garage, he checked the indicators and pictures in the car park and I passed! Down to DVLA, got my docs and on the road home via the number plate place!

All in all a very positive experience!

cheers
James

[Edited on 22/4/10 by James]

IVA Report

Well had a posative day today with the IVA, we have a Fail but a good one.

The 3 things that i thought would be a problem were fine:
1. Noise - fine 98.5 db (limit was 99db!)
2. Emissions - fine (not sure of the reading but it was to meet up to date regs)
3. Brakes - passed where i set the balance bar to, although i didn't render it immobile incase i needed to adjust it, so will need to weld it up now where it is.

Fail points were:
1. Fuel tank not fully seperated from passener compartment. - The tank was enclosed as std dax supplied panels but the filler neck is open to the under dash area and also needs to be boxed in. (anyone else had this with their MC Rush?)
2.Mirror mounts need an additional fixing at the top as they vibrate when driving, bluring the view in the mirrors.
3.Brake Balace bar not imobalised.
4.brake reservoir sticker didn't have a yellow background.
5.HT leads had no markings.
6. Paddle shift socked under dash was not radiused (will move it somewhere else where it will be exempt).
7.exterior items which also need radius attention:
- side repeter lens
- paddle shifter edge behind steering wheel (as there was no windscreen, the area behind the steering wheel is no longer exempt).
- bonnet catches - dax covers were not deamed permanent enough - held on by velcro.
8. some issues with tell tales for the hazzard and some other gremlins in the lighting controls - main beam and rear fog wouldn't latch on (switch latches but lights go out when you release your finger?)

All are easy to fix so a few evenings over the next couple of weeks should see it done hopefully.

I Must say That the tester Doug at Leighton Buzzard was very good and thorough also offered sugesstions made the experiance a pleasure.

When he tester drove the car around the site, it looked and sounded great! cant wait to get it passed and registered, i think i'll drive to the re-test

Ash

(1) No self centralising of steering when driven. Castor - Tracking re-set!
(2) Gear/Box change Cables touching sump. Create more clearance!
(3) N/S Brake Goodridge Hose too short New one, longer giving free play!
(4) F/Brake Calliper Bolts Not Wired Done!
(5) E C U un-protected Carpeted Done!
(6) Edges of door frames too sharp Plastic Wiper Hose cut & stuck over!
(7) Dipped H/lamps dipping like continental? Changed over and turned round (Done)!
(8) R/Fog Lamp too close to R/Lamps (spacing wrong) New Fog Lamp under bumper (Done)!
should come on with H/Lamps only!
(9) Rear 1/4 lights,& R/window, have the safety markings! Can you get your man to do you some
clear transfers? to stick in corners of
windows, please.spec for glass like F/screen
& side windows!
(10) Weight of Kit wrong? I will produce Certificate to correct weights!
(11) Silencer - Pipes under Bonnet. Will have to cover with Asbestos Wrap!
(12) Wires Behind Battery & Coil wires! Fix into place & cover!

Even if the Windows were in Perspex? Still have to have the safety markings on them! Like what's on the
Screen! and Door Windows! A Certificate & Clear sticker-transfer if possible!

why did you fail on pipes under the bonnet!?

SVA FAIL :
MK-Indy - Aberdeen

Emmissons
Seatbelt upper mount to Low
Seatbelt upper mount Bolts not 8.8 marked
Projections on Front Wishbones
Self Centering

IVA Fail (but a good one)

Broken Handbrake cable (snapped it getting car off the trailer!)
Vin plate – not accessible enough. ( under nose cone).
Bias bar not lockwired.
Cover required below wiper motor.
Front top wishbone bracket – wants better edge protection.
Exhaust clamp – requires turning further in to side of car. 100mm sphere touches it.
Exhaust mounting bracket – edge to blunt and bolt end to cover. ----ditto----
Foglight lens – needs to be marked with “B” or “F” – bottom line – it must be brighter
than brakelights.
Steering column upper clamp bolts missing locking tabs.
Diff upper mount needs 4 bolts not 2.
Rear camber adjuster locknuts only hand tight – and better with 2 each side.
Uninsulated connectors – horn.

Also ‘Advisory’ points:

Wheel nuts dished washers not tight – basically the wrong wheel nuts in use.
Fuel pump relay contacts low down and pointing forward – will likely prematurely fail due to water ingress.

Mentioned during test but I think he forgot to list it….

Sierra mushroom converters require secondary locking eg. Drilling through side of upright and bolting. (In case of the pinch bolt working loose).


Retest in january probably.

On a Stuart Taylor chassis car......tested at Notts (who are great by the way in my experience)

Failed on:

Drivers side seat shoulder belt anchorages too low (very slightly, fixed by removing some foam from the bag-moulded seat!)

Passenger side seatbelt anchorages............complicated one, on the drivers side the dash lower rad. was 19mm, but on passenger side it was only 18mm. No prob says tester, you have no passenger seat so no problem. Then he noticed that there were belt anchorages welded in, so he could not pass it until either the dash was right or the belt anchorages had been made "inoperable" (which was qualified as bolt with no head welded in) I did this, but very carefully (i.e. reversibly!!) as was planning passenger seat in future!!

Dash radius, see above

The edge on the plate on the end of the metalastic bush holding the silencer on was too sharp, fixed by sandwiching a disc of mudflap material with rad dressed onto it between bush plate and bracket

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Originally posted by nemesis v12
(1) No self centralising of steering when driven. Castor - Tracking re-set!
(2) Gear/Box change Cables touching sump. Create more clearance!
(3) N/S Brake Goodridge Hose too short New one, longer giving free play!
(4) F/Brake Calliper Bolts Not Wired Done!
(5) E C U un-protected Carpeted Done!
(6) Edges of door frames too sharp Plastic Wiper Hose cut & stuck over!
(7) Dipped H/lamps dipping like continental? Changed over and turned round (Done)!
(8) R/Fog Lamp too close to R/Lamps (spacing wrong) New Fog Lamp under bumper (Done)!
should come on with H/Lamps only!
(9) Rear 1/4 lights,& R/window, have the safety markings! Can you get your man to do you some
clear transfers? to stick in corners of
windows, please.spec for glass like F/screen
& side windows!
(10) Weight of Kit wrong? I will produce Certificate to correct weights!
(11) Silencer - Pipes under Bonnet. Will have to cover with Asbestos Wrap!
(12) Wires Behind Battery & Coil wires! Fix into place & cover!

Even if the Windows were in Perspex? Still have to have the safety markings on them! Like what's on the
Screen! and Door Windows! A Certificate & Clear sticker-transfer if possible!

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1. Radius issue on exhaust clamp - needs turning around so that bolt is towards the sill of the car.

2. Light on fog light switch coming on with side lights - needs to come on only when the fog lights are actually on. Easy re-wiring job.

3. Not possible to assess the state of the rear brake shoes due to the inspection hole in the back plate being obstructed by the Tiger uprights. Need to drill a new hole that is accessible and fit a rubber bung. On each side of course.

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Originally posted by DJT
1. Radius issue on exhaust clamp - needs turning around so that bolt is towards the sill of the car.

2. Light on fog light switch coming on with side lights - needs to come on only when the fog lights are actually on. Easy re-wiring job.

3. Not possible to assess the state of the rear brake shoes due to the inspection hole in the back plate being obstructed by the Tiger uprights. Need to drill a new hole that is accessible and fit a rubber bung. On each side of course.

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Any chance of some photo's of the "fixes" that then passed test?
"a picture speaks a thousand words"

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Originally posted by mojojeff
Any chance of some photo's of the "fixes" that then passed test?
"a picture speaks a thousand words"

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http://tigeravonbuilddiary.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/iva-re-test-modifications.html