handyandy
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| posted on 17/2/09 at 10:51 PM |
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need help to decide
hi all,
situation is this.
had planned on building the haynes roadster,
then the news of the single seater leaked out,
really fancied the single seater so decided to wait for the release of the single seater book & build that.
now the plot thickens......
wife wants me to build the roadster as we (wife & kids ) could go for a spin in it whereas single i,d be the only one to enjoy it, my wife doesn,t
drive, have 12yr old son who is mad on cars etc, she also says if i,m spending that sort of money on a "toy" then we should all get chance
to enjoy it ( albeit not at same time).
i,ll be honest & say that i fancy the single but am getting itchy fingers & want to start building "something" & i understand
what points my mrs has brought up.
so please vote either single or roadster.
thanks
andy
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Jasongray5
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| posted on 17/2/09 at 10:53 PM |
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Roadster if you want a more simple and less expensive quicker build!
Single Seater if you want to be (one of) the first!
There will be more help with the Roadster if you get stuck!
How hard can it be?
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iank
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| posted on 17/2/09 at 10:56 PM |
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Simple, build both, problem solved.
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chris_smith
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| posted on 17/2/09 at 10:57 PM |
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alter the roadster and fit three seats
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blakep82
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| posted on 17/2/09 at 10:59 PM |
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alter the single seater, and built 2 seats, one in front of the other. like russ bost's cars
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hellbent345
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| posted on 17/2/09 at 11:03 PM |
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i would seriously say single seater, because its going to be a toy whatever, and youll scare the sh*t out of them the first time you drive them
anyway, she'll never get in it again lol
seriously you will get more speed etc out of the single seater and be one of the first to build! bonus! you can, when youve finished, also take it to
a special track or airfield day and give them both a go maybe? one of my friends used to drive ferraris formula renaults lambos etc way before he
passed his drivng test, so there are tracks that do this out there!
al
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handyandy
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| posted on 17/2/09 at 11:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by hellbent345
i would seriously say single seater, because its going to be a toy whatever, and youll scare the sh*t out of them the first time you drive them
anyway, she'll never get in it again lol
seriously you will get more speed etc out of the single seater and be one of the first to build! bonus! you can, when youve finished, also take it to
a special track or airfield day and give them both a go maybe? one of my friends used to drive ferraris formula renaults lambos etc way before he
passed his drivng test, so there are tracks that do this out there!
al
ah but you don,t know my mrs
she loves speed ! not easily frightened ( proved that by marrying me)
she loves being on back of my bike & always asking to go faster, faster, i consider myself a safe but fast bike rider ( ex racer) but she just
doesn,t get scared at all, knee down stuff etc is a buzz for her, also the young lad goes on back of bike & enjoys it.( no knee down stuff for him
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i do like the idea of having a single seater on the road asap after book is released.
keep voting please & thanks for input.
andy
ps wife is watching this thread with interest 
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ReMan
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| posted on 17/2/09 at 11:23 PM |
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Roadster and keep everybody happy and on side. It will be quick enough, especially with a proper engine
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handyandy
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| posted on 17/2/09 at 11:29 PM |
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Reman......
i take it you mean a BEC ????
I was thinking of using a vfr750 motor into the single if thats what i end up building.
andy
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Simon
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| posted on 17/2/09 at 11:50 PM |
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Depends on how quick you build. From what I've gleaned from the single seater thread, the book isn't out for some time yet, so you have
plenty of time to build the roadster.
By the time you've got that on the road, the mrs will have passed her test, so she can drive that with your son, and you can build the single
seater
Problems. What problems!
ATB
Simon
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 17/2/09 at 11:57 PM |
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The way I look at it, having your family on board is pretty important, remember these cars EAT your evenings and weekends..and thats just the forum!
If it was me, I;d want to include SWMBO then when it goes over budget or the build stalls, she will be encouraging you rather than saying "I
told you so"
Plus at 13 your lad will learn a lot from the build - be a shame to exclude him after he will have helped out so much.
Persnally I would kill for a wife who liked my hobbies - and do what i could to keep it that way.
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Chippy
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| posted on 17/2/09 at 11:57 PM |
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Stop thinking just about yourself, build the Roadster, and keep the whole family happy. Probably go just as fast as the S/S anyway, Cheers Ray
To make a car go faster, just add lightness. Colin Chapman - OR - fit a bigger engine. Chippy
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handyandy
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 12:04 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
The way I look at it, having your family on board is pretty important, remember these cars EAT your evenings and weekends..and thats just the forum!
If it was me, I;d want to include SWMBO then when it goes over budget or the build stalls, she will be encouraging you rather than saying "I
told you so"
Plus at 13 your lad will learn a lot from the build - be a shame to exclude him after he will have helped out so much.
Persnally I would kill for a wife who liked my hobbies - and do what i could to keep it that way.
i,m probably sounding thick but what does swmbo stand for ?
as for which car to build ............................
how about build the roadster then build the s/seater.
ps the wife will not be learning to drive !
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Simon
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 12:14 AM |
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She Who Must Be Obeyed
ATB
Simon
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 02:09 AM |
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A single seater is surely more of a trackday toy!! Go for the roadster i recon - keep the family included and justifying the cash becomes a whole lot
easier.
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Ivan
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 07:01 AM |
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Build both BEC but on cartridge principal - move engine to whichever one you want at the time by making engine cradle common to both.
Seriously tho' I would consider looking for a cheap Locost and put in bike engine which is a quick fix to your conundrum, then start building
Single seater and once far enough along put locost back to it's original engine, sell it and use the Bike Engine in the single seater or sell
the Locost as a BEC, whichever will bring the best return - that way you can have your cake and eat it - or keep both.
If you keep both you can use the Locost to tow the SS to track days and if your build time is anything like most of ours your son will be old enough
to drive Mom around the track in the Locost whilst you enjoy the SS.
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wrigglypig
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 08:27 AM |
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Build 3 seperate single seaters! yours first coz you have passed your test, get the Mrs on with the lessons , then build hers, b y the time they are
both done junior will be driving.! easy peasy. Seriously though I'd do the roadster first, any snagging has already been done.
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wilkingj
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 08:27 AM |
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Build the Roadster.... If she likes speed, it would be selfish to build a single seater.
Involve the whole family, get the wife to do the trimming, and pretty bits.
Get the lad involved, it will really help him.
it will build his confidence, his knowlege, and the bond between you all.
Its a win-win solution if everyone is involved.
Plus you can take them out in a two seater.
If they help build a single seater, only you will drive it and they will feel left out.
If you really MUST have a single seater, build it after you have done the roadster.
Which ever way you go... good luck and enjoy the build.
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
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Geoff
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handyandy
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 09:16 AM |
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i think the writing was on the wall the whole time, you,ve all basically said whats being spinning around in my head, involve my family, young lad
will gain good knowledge & feel sense of achievement etc, if time & budget the wife will encourage me on etc, snags of s/seater will be well
sorted by time i decide to build one, can take wife or son out in the roadster etc,
if being honest i was probably being a little selfish wanting the single,
the wife is fully behind me with wanting to build a kit, she has already decided on colour scheme ( which i like )= black & polished steel/ali
body & black with silver trim interior.
so all in all a worthwhile poll for me,
i,m not indecisive just couldn,t decide which way to go
i guess i could build the roadster in about 12 months, and also by then the confusion of the new iva would be sorted & into a routine.
so basically it looks like a roadster will be on the road for next summer ( 2010 ).
i do like some of the idea,s you came up with, duel cartridge idea of swapping engine from one to the other
thanks all, been great help,
andy
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Steve Hignett
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 09:36 AM |
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So it's a Single Seater then???
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handyandy
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 09:40 AM |
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huh???
roadster first then single seater , like someone said in earlier reply..... have both
its true how the saying goes.....SWMBO the poll has confirmed what she has been saying
andy
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maartenromijn
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 11:23 AM |
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Be glad SWMBO likes your hobby and that she supports you. To keep it like that, build the roadster. Less chance that she will complain about the
budget.
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3GEComponents
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 12:18 PM |
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The single seaters a long way off yet, you've got time to build a roadster then the book for the single seater should be out.
Hope that helps.
Regards
John
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DIY Si
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 02:14 PM |
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I'd build the roadster first, then with your new found confidence, you should be able to throw the single seater together in a few weeks!
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handyandy
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 02:17 PM |
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thanks John ,
yeah thats what i,m gonna do, build the roadster then maybe the s/seater at some point in future.
now i can focus & get cracking on building instead of twiddling my thumbs & umming & arrrgging whether to wait for the single,
a roadster it will be,
thanks
andy
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