Printable Version | Subscribe | Add to Favourites
<<  1    2  >>
New Topic New Poll New Reply
Author: Subject: which car engine for 200bhp
adithorp

posted on 12/7/13 at 08:57 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by theduck
Renault F4R from a renaultsport Clio? Though gearbox is the issue there.


I think I've seen a Renault to type9 bell-housing on the GBS stand at shows.





"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire

http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
jossey

posted on 12/7/13 at 09:33 AM Reply With Quote
Them new 1.6 turbo zetec things what will they do with a big turbo.?





Thanks



David Johnson

Building my tiger avon slowly but surely.

View User's Profile E-Mail User Visit User's Homepage View All Posts By User U2U Member
ianm67

posted on 12/7/13 at 10:05 AM Reply With Quote
Corvette LS1, 5.7 V8......





Always biting off more than I can chew.....

View User's Profile Visit User's Homepage View All Posts By User U2U Member
Aaron_n_Sim

posted on 12/7/13 at 10:30 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ianm67
Corvette LS1, 5.7 V8......









Work to Live don't Live to Work

View User's Profile E-Mail User View All Posts By User U2U Member
loggyboy

posted on 12/7/13 at 10:53 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
quote:
Originally posted by theduck
Renault F4R from a renaultsport Clio? Though gearbox is the issue there.


I think I've seen a Renault to type9 bell-housing on the GBS stand at shows.


Would be interesting to see a 197/200 lump (or 172/182) in a kit as they are very revy lil engines.





Mistral Motorsport

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
loggyboy

posted on 12/7/13 at 10:54 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jossey
Them new 1.6 turbo zetec things what will they do with a big turbo.?


Do you mean the ecoboost? Nothing much to do with a Zetec.





Mistral Motorsport

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
iank

posted on 12/7/13 at 11:56 AM Reply With Quote
Surprised no-one has suggested Vauxhall XE, known, cheap and reliable to 200bhp with just throttle bodies and a decent exhaust.

Only downside it it's a bit heavy and getting harder to find.

http://www.sbdev.co.uk/History_files/History_EngineTechVauxhallXE.htm





--
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
garyo

posted on 12/7/13 at 12:02 PM Reply With Quote
I'd think you can get an early s2k for 3k now, as a running vehicle, if you don't mind it being a cat c or d... That's all that's mines worth. It seems to be accepted that they're worth more as parts. As has been said, depends how much time you have, as money.

Gary

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
ianm67

posted on 12/7/13 at 12:04 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iank
Surprised no-one has suggested Vauxhall XE
http://www.sbdev.co.uk/History_files/History_EngineTechVauxhallXE.htm



Oh yes they have......





Always biting off more than I can chew.....

View User's Profile Visit User's Homepage View All Posts By User U2U Member
MRLuke

posted on 12/7/13 at 12:34 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by INDY BIRD
Rover k series light and revive,

My friend just bought a mg 160bhp engine and had the head ported by scholar and a set of mild cams it made 206 bhp on the rollers engine cost £560 head work was £700 ish and 400 for the cams that's good cheap bhp he did the write up in pc magazine as it was fitted in a Caterham,

The 160 engines are stronger as have better pistons so can rev to around 8k above that you will need to get stronger valve springs and piston upgrades he will have the car on track with me this weekend at Woodbridge,

That's cheap power,

And lots of spares for then

Mine makes 185 bhp and with more to come

Good luck and also they are very light so power to weight of the engine is better than most for 200 bhp


Thats not cheap at all! My engine setup cost £600 including gearbox and wiring and should make 250-300bhp.

I would put a +1 on the 3SGE Beams engine over 200bhp out of the box, though as mentioned make sure you get one in RWD setup unless you are going for mid engined.

Turbo is the way to go for cheap power, you can pickup an Sr20det with all the gubbins, gearbox, turbo etc for less than £1k which will make 220bhp out of the box and nudge 300 before it starts to get expensive.

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
jossey

posted on 12/7/13 at 02:39 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
quote:
Originally posted by jossey
Them new 1.6 turbo zetec things what will they do with a big turbo.?


Do you mean the ecoboost? Nothing much to do with a Zetec.


Ye that's the one....

You knew what I meant :-)





Thanks



David Johnson

Building my tiger avon slowly but surely.

View User's Profile E-Mail User Visit User's Homepage View All Posts By User U2U Member
iank

posted on 12/7/13 at 03:36 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MRLuke
quote:
Originally posted by INDY BIRD
...
Turbo is the way to go for cheap power, you can pickup an Sr20det with all the gubbins, gearbox, turbo etc for less than £1k which will make 220bhp out of the box and nudge 300 before it starts to get expensive.


Turbo is good for big power numbers, but a poor idea for going quickly in a lightweight RWD sports car.





--
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
iank

posted on 12/7/13 at 03:37 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ianm67
quote:
Originally posted by iank
Surprised no-one has suggested Vauxhall XE
http://www.sbdev.co.uk/History_files/History_EngineTechVauxhallXE.htm



Oh yes they have......


Have they? not in this thread as far as I can tell...





--
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
pjay

posted on 13/7/13 at 07:23 AM Reply With Quote
Another one in favour of Duratec 2.0L.

Go for one with a Hi Port head (ST150, Focus etc.) and it's possible to get to 200 NA depending on inlet and exhaust (otherwise FR cams).

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
loggyboy

posted on 13/7/13 at 07:46 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iank
quote:
Originally posted by ianm67
quote:
Originally posted by iank
Surprised no-one has suggested Vauxhall XE
http://www.sbdev.co.uk/History_files/History_EngineTechVauxhallXE.htm



Oh yes they have......


Have they? not in this thread as far as I can tell...


I mentioned Redtop quite early on.





Mistral Motorsport

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
franky

posted on 13/7/13 at 09:53 AM Reply With Quote
s2000 has got to be the best for the money, you can get an engine and box for £1500, or buy a car and take it apart so it costs less?

Sure you can fit a ford lump but its still not in the same league and will cost ££££'s to get near 240bhp, not to mention it won't do 200k either.

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
Pat_T

posted on 13/7/13 at 10:22 AM Reply With Quote
+1 for Vauxhall Redtop if you can get one with a good head then the world is your oyster.

just listen to the throttle body noise below







www.instagram.com/patroclueus

View User's Profile Visit User's Homepage View All Posts By User U2U Member
theduck

posted on 13/7/13 at 10:44 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
quote:
Originally posted by theduck
Renault F4R from a renaultsport Clio? Though gearbox is the issue there.


I think I've seen a Renault to type9 bell-housing on the GBS stand at shows.


Would be interesting to see a 197/200 lump (or 172/182) in a kit as they are very revy lil engines.


Didn't know you can get an off te shelf bell housing...

Know what I'll be doing when it's time to change engine! Renaultsport clios are in my blood!

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
Volvorsport

posted on 13/7/13 at 11:56 AM Reply With Quote
if ya gonna go mad with a renault engine have a look at some 16v drift 340's .

while not the perfect setup if you already have one , if your building a chassis its almost tailormade.....





www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus

View User's Profile Visit User's Homepage View All Posts By User U2U Member
iank

posted on 13/7/13 at 01:11 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
quote:
Originally posted by iank
quote:
Originally posted by ianm67
quote:
Originally posted by iank
Surprised no-one has suggested Vauxhall XE
http://www.sbdev.co.uk/History_files/History_EngineTechVauxhallXE.htm



Oh yes they have......


Have they? not in this thread as far as I can tell...


I mentioned Redtop quite early on.


That's why it didn't turn up when searching for XE or Vaux then





--
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
INDY BIRD

posted on 13/7/13 at 07:33 PM Reply With Quote
You don't need 200 bhp,

Just did a track day in my striker with 185bhp and when was there was some people I know and they had a caterhams with a zetec 200 bhp and another with 207 bhp another with 205 bhp and a r400 d with 230 bhp,

Guess who was in front. Yep me, I could easily keep ahead of them even pulling away from the cars apart from the r400d on the straights but when I was behind them aswell really couldn't over take them too,

The zetec car was easy to whoop even on the straights and it had a dunnel zetec engine

So very evenly matched cars a great day with 5 cars out on track we had a hoot,

I would say get all the drive train a gearbox wright and this can make up for bhp

I could max out about 130 mph @ 7100 rpm and pulled there easily,

So get this wright aswell,

Oh and ps they all had slicks I was on khunmos v70

Go for the k series its a great revvy engine,

Only my thoughts after a great day

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
sdh2903

posted on 13/7/13 at 08:43 PM Reply With Quote
Indy bird, I see your point but this engine may well not be going in a 7, in a car weighing maybe 7-800 kgs so I think 200bhp is a fair shout to keep performance interesting. With regards your tussles with higher power cars surely there must be a leveller somewhere with your car being lighter, better geared or you have more ability. A car with 20 bhp more of same weight and gearing surely shouldnt struggle?

One thing I learnt from my build is build to the best spec first time, its cheaper than doing it twice!

I am tempted by the s2k lump and I really enjoy stripping donors but I'm not sure I can get the initial outlay together.

Thanks for all the suggestions guys, much reading and research to do!

Steve

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
franky

posted on 13/7/13 at 08:46 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sdh2903
Indy bird, I see your point but this engine may well not be going in a 7, in a car weighing maybe 7-800 kgs so I think 200bhp is a fair shout to keep performance interesting. With regards your tussles with higher power cars surely there must be a leveller somewhere with your car being lighter, better geared or you have more ability. A car with 20 bhp more of same weight and gearing surely shouldnt struggle?

One thing I learnt from my build is build to the best spec first time, its cheaper than doing it twice!

I am tempted by the s2k lump and I really enjoy stripping donors but I'm not sure I can get the initial outlay together.

Thanks for all the suggestions guys, much reading and research to do!

Steve


Also you don't want a rover engine do you!?

It might be worth buying a whole car on some plastic, you could get all of your money back or most of it?

View User's Profile View All Posts By User U2U Member
<<  1    2  >>
New Topic New Poll New Reply


go to top






Website design and SEO by Studio Montage

All content © 2001-16 LocostBuilders. Reproduction prohibited
Opinions expressed in public posts are those of the author and do not necessarily represent
the views of other users or any member of the LocostBuilders team.
Running XMB 1.8 Partagium [© 2002 XMB Group] on Apache under CentOS Linux
Founded, built and operated by ChrisW.