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Ben_Copeland

posted on 14/1/14 at 09:42 PM Reply With Quote
I think it's quite exceptable to make it from 4 pieces, it's not as if it's on show and your powdercoating them black anyway





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yellowcab

posted on 14/1/14 at 09:44 PM Reply With Quote
Cheers pal - its the arse of then fastening the sides & bottom, the top is easy... the sides will have slots in...

Unless I make the bottom three out of a single piece, held by the side slots...

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johnny chimpo

posted on 15/1/14 at 10:52 AM Reply With Quote
If you can make this out of one section of aluminium I would be well impressed. As mentioned above, I would go with making it from a few pieces, nobody will see it and it will still do the same job!
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yellowcab

posted on 15/1/14 at 04:51 PM Reply With Quote
I'm going to give a single piece of aluminium a go, there is nothing to lose other than some ally - well worth the attempt.

40inches quite rightly pointed out that the 'real' Donkervort has a horizontal plane of aluminium separating the airflow to their water rad and intercooler... I know mine is an oil cooler, but the same principle - so Cheers Dave for pointing it out to me I'll be sure to add a fin

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yellowcab

posted on 15/1/14 at 05:00 PM Reply With Quote
So todays adventure lead me to collect my front aerodynamic pieces that I got from Scutter - cheers Nick for doing the middle man and storing these for me... a half width aero nose wing, and a full width genuine Westfield nose wing



Then my second visit of the day was over to Strakka Racing @ Silverstone to get the bits I'd won on eBay and my addiction to carbon fibre is now almost complete, some visual aero dynamic porn for you to ogle at





















All the bits came to a price I couldn't really refuse, so I bought it all to mess around with, cut up and make fit - those bits that don't fit will be sold on, or cut up to be used as brackets elsewhere on the car

I managed to get the following all from a Strakka LMP2 LeMan car all in carbon fibre: Rear Floor Pan, Rear Diffuser, Front Splitter, Legality Boxes, Wing End Plates, Conards, Rear Bumper flick ups


[Edited on 15/1/14 by yellowcab]

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yellowcab

posted on 15/1/14 at 05:06 PM Reply With Quote
Here is the rear floorpan & diffuser at over 2metres wide, and 1.6m tall, it weighs around 2kilos




Here is the smaller piece, the front splitter, only just fits!




Trying to figure out how to make it all fit




It wouldn't fit, rear floor far to big... so at his horror, I asked him to cut the top off the rear floor pan so it'd fit in my car, to which he replied 'you want me to cut the top off a £10k carbon fibre floor' lol, made him wince a little... so here he is, he did it - cracking sport.




Legality Boxes




All in, just!


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yellowcab

posted on 15/1/14 at 05:16 PM Reply With Quote
So after wiping up my dribble from their workshop floor, I landed back down to earth and got back in my shack

First off - this is too narrow for my track, as its a genuine Westfield item, so presumably a 'narrow body'




My new rear diffuser lol






Front Splitter out... slightly heavier due to complexity I presume





Stuff






Rear bumper flick ups...? lol




In two minds about these Legality boxes, either will use one as a passenger foot plate, or I'll plonk them on my rear panel to use as downforce, like the one on the left is sitting, or I'll mount them upside down on my rear tubs to create flat-tops, as they're the same contour




LOLLing at this




Construction of them twin carbon with micro ally corrugation

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Pat_T

posted on 15/1/14 at 09:32 PM Reply With Quote


how much did that little lot set you back?

I used to work with stuff like that when I worked at Juno, its going to be interesting to see if you can get it to fit on the MKdonvervoort as I am now going to call it





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PAUL FISHER

posted on 15/1/14 at 09:48 PM Reply With Quote
The first picture with the westy front spoiler, it is designed to fit a wide bodied westfield not narrow bodied, the reason its too narrow for your Indy is because your car is wider track, Westfields are narrow track as standard, it would fit on my Westy a treat , but I think they do look better with that smaller spoiler you have bought

[Edited on 19/05/04 by PAUL FISHER]

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yellowcab

posted on 15/1/14 at 09:55 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks chaps, I'm going to enjoy fettling and modding it, it'll be a bit of fun

I may use the bits of carbon for my rad ducting now I have some to mess with, but unsure how to join the corners, so I'll try ally first, don't think I have a long enough single piece of ally to go all the way around? But hopefully the sides and bottom as one, then the top seperate, easy to work on and remove then.

After all the faffing with the ducting and stuff, I hope I decide to keep the Donkervoort nose.

Paul, I'll be selling on the Westfield full width jobbie, I'll offer up the half width and see how that works. I'm certainly not interested in cutting and widening it to fit my car, too much faffing for me and I'm not too good and making things look pretty lol

I got in touch with the previous owner who still has a roll of yellow vinyl which is obviously the same colour, so I'll be wrapping the new nose to suit, for now, rather than the whole car

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40inches

posted on 16/1/14 at 04:26 PM Reply With Quote
I f your going for the full Donk look, the front wing looks about the right size








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yellowcab

posted on 16/1/14 at 04:35 PM Reply With Quote
Dave pack it in, you know what you're doing and I don't appreciate it (lol said with a smile)
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daveb666

posted on 16/1/14 at 04:40 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by 40inches
I f your going for the full Donk look, the front wing looks about the right size




That looks bad-ass. Olly, it needs to be done.





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40inches

posted on 16/1/14 at 04:41 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by yellowcab
Dave pack it in, you know what you're doing and I don't appreciate it (lol said with a smile)


I'll not show you this one then










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yellowcab

posted on 16/1/14 at 04:44 PM Reply With Quote
I do love the rear spoiler
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yellowcab

posted on 16/1/14 at 04:45 PM Reply With Quote
Ah, the first one turns me on more, as its more 'alike' my car, the second one is too far removed from mine to even attempt any of the modifications lol
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PAUL FISHER

posted on 16/1/14 at 05:02 PM Reply With Quote
How about this one, I think its the small spoiler you have fitted to a westy, could even be the actual one


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yellowcab

posted on 16/1/14 at 06:03 PM Reply With Quote
Paul, that is uncanny

I'll update later when I have some time, but for now - this is what I got up to earlier on before your post lol

You're correct, it is 'the' one as I have the bolt holes from where his beam-breaker was from his sprinting days, 10 points as to what else is alike


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PAUL FISHER

posted on 16/1/14 at 06:23 PM Reply With Quote
I think the small one looks just right, the big one would just get knocked off on the first speed bump, if you could get the small one made up by someone in carbon fibre or fibreglass I am sure you could sell a few.
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yellowcab

posted on 16/1/14 at 06:44 PM Reply With Quote
Yeah it's quite gappy currently, as expected.

I used the legality boxes at the back to imitate a rear spoiler for added rear downforce (lol), they look quite nice

The front aero stuff I was gonna just stick on for trackdays, not necessarily for every day, we'll see

Gagging to make use of the carbon stuff lol

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yellowcab

posted on 16/1/14 at 09:12 PM Reply With Quote
So I popped down earlier, but only for 10minutes as had prior engagements, spoke to previous owner of the car, I'm meeting him tomorrow to collect the roll of yellow vinyl, so going to give wrapping the nose myself a bash, hopefully with the gentle hand of Pat too

I dropped my wing stays at the powder coaters, and chuffed they only wanted a fiver to do them, it'd have cost me more than that in Hammerite, Primer and paintbrushes, not to mention the expletives when they run, and react, and bubble up because I've rushed them so I'm collecting them on Monday




With the Donkervoort nose cone I got from Paul Fisher (ack, can't remember who I bought it off now, but I know it was originally yours) there were the 'mouth' inserts which I wasn't going to use, but I actually think I prefer the look of it with them in... here is before & after (after is without flash), it certainly reduces the intake size mind






After with flash below, the bottom section would still need meshing, so I don't know if it'd look odd if the top section is the horizontal bars, and the lower section mesh - unsure as yet




Please someone for god sake shed some light on this stupid thing for me, and tell me if this is the best way of me making it... I'm not overly keen on the little sections I'm going to have in the corners, but not sure how else to do it.
The boot 'lid' itself must be hinged, as I'll be lifting it up to fuel up etc, so i do not want it removable top. I can't think of how else I can make the 'sides' one piece, they seem to have to be made from two pieces





Then I had a play with all the stuff, to see where it could be used, and how



The carbon front wheel arch fenders I could cut the edge off to make the edge of my rad ducting, like so, thats a nice size


This is what they are



Think they'd have gone like this, with the brake ducting inside the wheels



The bits that attached to the above, I could use as the bottom section, I have two of these so I could make one out of the top section, problem with this - is this piece isn't flat, it has a slight curve to it, which may ruffle my feathers



Then things went to my head, and I started playing








Carbon scoops now at the back on the rear panel



Pretty







[Edited on 16/1/14 by yellowcab]

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Ben_Copeland

posted on 16/1/14 at 09:33 PM Reply With Quote
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Carbon scoops now at the back on the rear panel



[Edited on 16/1/14 by yellowcab]


If they were mounted flush to the wings that would look pretty awesome





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Ben_Copeland

posted on 16/1/14 at 09:40 PM Reply With Quote
You could do the boot cover like I did mine.





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yellowcab

posted on 16/1/14 at 10:00 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ben_Copeland
If they were mounted flush to the wings that would look pretty awesome
They'd need to be higher than the level of the top of the rear tubs to make any difference, so they need to be as high as the rear clam, if not higher

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Ben_Copeland

posted on 16/1/14 at 10:02 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by yellowcab
quote:
Originally posted by Ben_Copeland
If they were mounted flush to the wings that would look pretty awesome
They'd need to be higher than the level of the top of the rear tubs to make any difference, so they need to be as high as the rear clam, if not higher


I know but I prefer them on top of the wings





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