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Author: Subject: Craig's 442E BMW powered build
craigdiver

posted on 24/7/16 at 07:06 PM Reply With Quote
Craig's 442E BMW powered build

Nearly ready to start, got steel, got donor. First job is to strip it down and remove drive-train


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Benzo

posted on 25/7/16 at 09:30 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by craigdiver
Nearly ready to start, got steel, got donor. First job is to strip it down and remove drive-train




What engine are you pulling from the BM?

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sdh2903

posted on 25/7/16 at 09:57 AM Reply With Quote
Looks tidy for a donor!
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craigdiver

posted on 25/7/16 at 10:42 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Benzo What engine are you pulling from the BM?


M52TUB25 (2.5 straight 6 aluminium block & head). Seen it being built into a couple of 442E's stateside.

Will be a challenge....

Hoping to try to use the suspension as it is coilovers and if I can replicate the geometry with wishbones i'll be able to use the BMW wheels too. Steering setup also going to be used (if I can fit it in with power steering pump).

Might end up with a locost with cruise control!

[Edited on 25/7/16 by craigdiver]

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craigdiver

posted on 25/7/16 at 10:56 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by sdh2903
Looks tidy for a donor!


300 still MOTd for a month. Full black leather interior, huge alloys and nearly new tyres. No warning lights (apart from washer bottle empty which i'm not concerned about)

Car feels quick and smooth, especially when the revs get up and the variable valve timing does its thing, never had the balls to keep my foot planted!

I've ordered the haynes manual for the car as want to strip the electrics back to the bare minimum to keep the engine running, not sure how these (or cars in general) are wired. Ill keep removing wiring and check engine still starts ok. Going to take the transponder out the key and araldite it to the receiver in the steering column then shouldn't have any problems with immobiliser.

And i've now got two very comfy seats for my workshop!

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JAG

posted on 25/7/16 at 10:57 AM Reply With Quote
Can anyone else hear that whirring noise?

I think it's Colin Chapman spinning in his grave





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Benzo

posted on 25/7/16 at 10:58 AM Reply With Quote
I'd hoped it was a V8 one!
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craigdiver

posted on 25/7/16 at 11:09 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by JAG
Can anyone else hear that whirring noise?

I think it's Colin Chapman spinning in his grave


Shame on me. had to google to see who Colin Chapman was, i'll need to get a poster of him on my workshop wall to cover up Samantha Fox (if you do not know who Samantha Fox is your too young!)

[Edited on 25/7/16 by craigdiver]

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craigdiver

posted on 25/7/16 at 11:12 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Benzo
I'd hoped it was a V8 one!


The 540i did cross my mind, along with M3 engine but gave myself a reality check and looked at what I had to fit it into.

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craigdiver

posted on 25/7/16 at 11:17 AM Reply With Quote
How many / what bits do I need to use from the BMW to retain the registration?

Planning on engine, gearbox, prop, diff, rear axle including suspension, possibly front suspension, steering column & rack, handbrake, wiring loom.

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sdh2903

posted on 25/7/16 at 11:18 AM Reply With Quote
Just to be aware the BMW wheels in general are like boat anchors they weigh a bloody ton. My last kit used a BMW donor and it was very tricky to get any reasonable sized lightish wheels with the 5 x 120 stud pattern. Very few avail in 15 inch I ended up with 16s. But then again with a bigger chassis it's probably not such a big issue in your case.
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sdh2903

posted on 25/7/16 at 11:19 AM Reply With Quote
You don't retain the registration. You will just get one of the same year when you apply post IVA.

Engine box and axles is generally enough.

[Edited on 25/7/16 by sdh2903]

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craigdiver

posted on 25/7/16 at 11:39 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by sdh2903
Just to be aware the BMW wheels in general are like boat anchors they weigh a bloody ton. My last kit used a BMW donor and it was very tricky to get any reasonable sized lightish wheels with the 5 x 120 stud pattern. Very few avail in 15 inch I ended up with 16s. But then again with a bigger chassis it's probably not such a big issue in your case.


Thanks for the info, not going for lightweight on this build, just using it for experience. Really fancied an ultralight with the 1.6 ecoboost engine but I can keep that for my next build.

This will just be a cruiser, hopefully will shed a ton of weight by using 442E chassis instead of the 5 series bodyshell. I could hardly lift the drivers seat out the BMW!

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craigdiver

posted on 25/7/16 at 05:04 PM Reply With Quote
Holy s#!t, started pulling interior panels off the BMW, how much wiring do you actually need in a car!. Little important looking modules hidden everywhere with many wires going to them, think ill wait to see the wiring diagrams in the haynes manual before pulling anything apart
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craigdiver

posted on 25/7/16 at 05:08 PM Reply With Quote
Another step forward, picked up chassis to be from the steel stockholders


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Benzo

posted on 25/7/16 at 05:17 PM Reply With Quote
It really is shocking. I stripped the Loom out of my V8 one.





25kg of wiring easily!

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craigdiver

posted on 25/7/16 at 06:35 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Benzo
It really is shocking. I stripped the Loom out of my V8 one.


Did you use the engine management part of it or did you use an aftermarket ECU, if so what is the costs/advantages?

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Benzo

posted on 25/7/16 at 07:09 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by craigdiver
quote:
Originally posted by Benzo
It really is shocking. I stripped the Loom out of my V8 one.


Did you use the engine management part of it or did you use an aftermarket ECU, if so what is the costs/advantages?


I had intended to run the standard ecu in a chopped down loom but I had then planned to run itb's and now twin turbos so that standard management was ditched for
DTA 100Pro which sequentially can run 8 cylinders, traction, launch, flat shift, boost control. That unit is about 1200 then you'd need a custom map for it.

Something like a used emerald k3 ECU (400) and a light weight simplified loom made from the original engine harness would be the way to go.

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tr7v8

posted on 25/7/16 at 07:41 PM Reply With Quote
MOT history doesn't look bad according to the Gov site.





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craigdiver

posted on 25/7/16 at 08:19 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by tr7v8
MOT history doesn't look bad according to the Gov site.


Lots and lots of receipts for servicing at a BMW dealer until the last couple of years. Car has 174,000 miles on it but engine not smoking at all and pulls like a train.

Think I'll put the reg on ebay once I get the V5, might be able to recover the cost of the car.

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craigdiver

posted on 25/7/16 at 08:21 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Benzo I had intended to run the standard ecu in a chopped down loom


Do you have any info on how much the original loom can be stripped down and what can be removed?

[Edited on 25/7/16 by craigdiver]

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Benzo

posted on 25/7/16 at 08:31 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by craigdiver
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Originally posted by Benzo I had intended to run the standard ecu in a chopped down loom


Do you have any info on how much the original loom can be stripped down and what can be removed?

[Edited on 25/7/16 by craigdiver]


No I didn't get that far with it.

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craigdiver

posted on 26/7/16 at 07:19 PM Reply With Quote
6 hours spent today stripping out wiring on BMW. I'm carefully removing it checking as I go that the engine still runs ok.

So far the following circuits are disconnected and engine still running ok;
ABS/ASC sensors
All lighting
Central locking
Climate control
All airbags and airbag module
Fuel tank level sender
Some other modules all over the car that I have no idea what they are.
Sound system

Dashboard warning lights like a xmas tree!

And as a bonus, found 64p in change under seats and other strange places!


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ettore bugatti

posted on 26/7/16 at 08:10 PM Reply With Quote
The 23i engine pulls good as good as the later m54 25i, although that should have 20 more horses.

On E36 and E46 3-series sometimes these 15x7 alloys are mounted:

They are only 6kg which isn't too bad, I dont know how they fit on 5 series since the offset and centre bore are different.

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craigdiver

posted on 26/7/16 at 08:37 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by ettore bugatti
The 23i engine pulls good as good as the later m54 25i, although that should have 20 more horses.

They are only 6kg which isn't too bad, I dont know how they fit on 5 series since the offset and centre bore are different.


Not had the wheels off yet to feel how heavy they are but at 18" I'm sure they won't be light.

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