novacaine
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:18 PM |
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Locost engine
what engines, appart from the old x-flow can fit into the Book chassis without headaches like bonnet bulges and modified sumps like with the pinto,
something with reasonable power/tuning potential and is not too expensive and not rare
cheers
Matt
And you run and you run to catch up with the sun but its sinking, Racing around to come up behind you again, the sun is the same in a relative way but
your older, shorter of breath and one day closer to death
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BenB
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:19 PM |
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Aha! The search for the Holy Grail 
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novacaine
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by BenB
Aha! The search for the Holy Grail
that difficult eh?
lol
Matt
And you run and you run to catch up with the sun but its sinking, Racing around to come up behind you again, the sun is the same in a relative way but
your older, shorter of breath and one day closer to death
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graememk
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:21 PM |
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i bike engine />?
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big_wasa
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:21 PM |
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Cheep and cheerfull is the sierra 1.8cvh.
And free with the correct donnor.
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:23 PM |
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I would start by saying something form a bike.
If its a CEC your after then the VX Red top takes some beating £ for £ imho.
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novacaine
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Jon Ison
If its a CEC your after then the VX Red top takes some beating £ for £ imho.
what gearbox can you mount that to?
And you run and you run to catch up with the sun but its sinking, Racing around to come up behind you again, the sun is the same in a relative way but
your older, shorter of breath and one day closer to death
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flak monkey
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:26 PM |
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The pinto is easy, you can mod the sump etc yourself. X-flow is easiest requiring no mods and its a very light little engine too.
The bike engines need their sumps modding as they are mounted transverse in a bike and longitudinal in a seven, same with many newer 16v engines
including the zetec and red top. And almost all bike and 16v engines have ali sumps which you cant mod yourself unless you have an AC tig... Oh and
you will either need bike carbs or and after market injection/throttle body system for most injection car engines which can be big bucks
David
[Edited on 8/1/07 by flak monkey]
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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novacaine
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:26 PM |
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any suggestions on specific bike engines to look out for ?
i would love a hayabusa but i cant afford the £1500 price tag lol
car or bike engined im open minded at the miniute but ultimatley its going to be a £ vs Power decision
And you run and you run to catch up with the sun but its sinking, Racing around to come up behind you again, the sun is the same in a relative way but
your older, shorter of breath and one day closer to death
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BenB
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:30 PM |
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I'd agree BEC is the way to go for cheap poke per pound.... R1 seems to be flavour of the month at the moment. Cheap, good power output and not
very prone to going pop....
Most bike engines are already fairly highly tuned though so not much room for extra tuning potential (unless you start throwing money at
Holeshot)...
I'd agree with the VX red top for a CEC. Lots of cheap tuning parts thanks to the number of GM motors out there using them, shouldn't be
at all hard to find a bellhousing to mount to a type 9 gearbox etc....
Thought if I was going CEC I'd go for a Duratec because (as a new-ish engine) they already have a fair number of ponies and the outputs of tuned
Duratec engines is increasing all the time....
You could go Honda VTEC. After all, if they fitted on in the front of a Mini, a locost shouldn't be a problem.... And the Jap tuning scene
should provide lots of tuning goodies, and the VTEC provides flexibility.... Only trouble might be finding a bellhousing to attach to a type 9.... And
some Honda engines rotate the wrong way relative to most engines.....
[Edited on 8/1/07 by BenB]
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graememk
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:31 PM |
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because of your budget i'd get a xflow then think about a zetec upgrade later on using the same gear box
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t.j.
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:32 PM |
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oh o,
This could end up in a discussion:
BEC
CEC
I'm using the DOHC
just make the sump shorter and use the MT75. But a lot modifing to the chassis.
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novacaine
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:33 PM |
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one last question, other than the mk1/2 escorts, what can i get a xflow out of?
the escorts can now fetch £1k so for me there well out of the question...
And you run and you run to catch up with the sun but its sinking, Racing around to come up behind you again, the sun is the same in a relative way but
your older, shorter of breath and one day closer to death
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:35 PM |
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Don't forget the Toyota 4AGE engine - 1600cc, about 130BHP out of the box (I believe) and the core of the engine is about the same size as the
crossflow. Unfortunately the add-ons bulk up the size and make a bit hard to fit in, but many people manage to do it with a bit of work.
A very whizzy engine that goes well in such a light car.
David
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ecosse
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:38 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by novacaine
one last question, other than the mk1/2 escorts, what can i get a xflow out of?
the escorts can now fetch £1k so for me there well out of the question...
I wouldn't bother with a crossflow these days, zetec is cheaper eaiser to come by, tough and supplies more ponies, it is also lighter than the
pinto will bolt on to a type9 or MT75, what more could you want 
Cheers
Alex
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ch1ll1
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:39 PM |
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i might have a fireblade 918 engine up for sale with loom dyno jetted,exhaust (mk), ETC, for the right price
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BenB
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:41 PM |
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som
ething like this link
would be the thing to go for if you're going CEC....
It's already attached to a type 9 gearbox, its got the Webers already attached....
Looks pretty read to go...
Can't understand with the obsession with Webers. Yes, they look beautiful, yes, they sound great... But they're not the best for fuel
economy! I saw one BEC that had the 90s carbs ripped off to be replaced with 60s Weber technology.... Cost an arm and a leg and didn't make any
difference!!!
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:42 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by novacaine
any suggestions on specific bike engines to look out for ?
i would love a hayabusa but i cant afford the £1500 price tag lol
car or bike engined im open minded at the miniute but ultimatley its going to be a £ vs Power decision
Search and you will pick up a blade for a 1/3rd of that, it wont need any sump mods and will put plenty of smiles on your face.
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Hellfire
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:46 PM |
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Show me the Busa engine for £1,500. I'll take two.
Phil
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Danozeman
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:47 PM |
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Iv got a zetec with type 9 in my book chassis. The only mod is taller bodywork.
Bike carbs and megajolt, away you go.
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:52 PM |
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Put this one in...........
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BenB
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:53 PM |
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http://www.sbdev.co.uk/Main.htm
do bellhousings to fit the VX to a type 9 BTW....
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BenB
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:55 PM |
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I'd like to see the tacho graph before I believe the "1600BHP R34 Nissan Skyline" claim. After all, what to most rolling roads go up
to??? 
I suppose it's possible if you're prepared to put up with obscene amounts of turbo lag.......
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doughie
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:56 PM |
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if ya see a blade for £250 - give us a shout!
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 07:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by doughie
if ya see a blade for £250 - give us a shout!
You missed out, recently sold one for £300, only needed carbs.
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